The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.

[perpetualman]

Well,

     Here's what I came up with. Maybe someone can confirm if this will work or not. Try building it and find out.



(Perpetualman)

[gravitationallychallenged]

Perpetual Man-  I like your idea although I would swivel weights at the 12 oclock position in order to provide the overbalance.

[fletcher]

Hi Perpetualman .. thank you for sharing your ideas - you obviously have put some time & thought into this proposal & presentation - the L levers are rotated in the z axis via a stator & cog arrangement.

I have a few questions & clarifications required.

1. the wheel is designed to turn CCW [counter clockwise] ?

2. there is always a 'heavy' sector on the lhs [as we view the drawing] ?

3. there is always a 'light' sector on the rhs ?

4. two lifts occur each sector, one at or about 9 o'cl & the other at or about 4 o'cl ?

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What you are proposing is that you redistribute the density of the wheel by rotating the levers in the z axis/plane - this shifts the Center of Gravity [CoG] & the Center of Mass [CoM] to the left of the Center of Rotation [CoR] - this creates a torque about the pivot at the wheel center causing CCW rotation.

I'm sure you've heard all the arguments about conservative gravity & how it is path independent - that means it doesn't matter what path a mass takes up or down, the mass can not have more Kinetic Energy [KE] than the Potential Energy [PE] it would have had at any horizontal height, from using gravity force alone [not including ordinary system losses of energy to frictions etc] - this holds true for z axis movement as well unfortunately because height is the only salient consideration & not direction.

IOW's, if the levers are prepositioned to give the ultimate overbalance & maximum torque then yes the whole wheel will gain Rotational KE [RKE] because the CoM is not located vertically below the CoR - unfortunately, convention says [not accounting for ordinary system losses] that the RKE gained is exactly the same as the energy required to rotate the levers into the favourable torque positions [i.e. create heavy & light sectors] & never in excess of this minimum energy required to translate the levers i.e. lift their individual CoM ["the reset"].

There would only be an advantage [energy surplus] IF the cost of rotating the two levers per sector was LESS than the RKE gain - if you can show that would be the case with a sim or working model then you would have the mathematicians pouring over your design for a much closer look & analysis.

Perhaps that's enough comment to think on for now - if I have misinterpreted something in your descriptions please clarify.

[perpetualman]

Hi Fletcher!

  The lever's in the drawing are set up to rotate CCW. You can place the lever's (manually) in the other direction if you want it to rotate CW. The left side, according to the drawing, will always be heavier than the right.

   I know that there have been a lot of proposels to building a gravity powered wheel and i would like to build this one that i've posted. I'm not saying that it will definately work, i just think it has more potential than most other designs that i've looked at.

  But your right, I need to build one and see if it's worth anything. By the way, is there a free program online that i can use or download to put this idea to the test? 

  I heard of a program called (Algodoo) but haven't tried it yet. Have you heard of this before?


(Perpetualman)

 

[phaedrus]

By the way, is there a free program online that i can use or download to put this idea to the test? 

  I heard of a program called (Algodoo) but haven't tried it yet. Have you heard of this before?


(Perpetualman)

Speaking of which, I am also interested in this.  I have seen so many people in this forum talking about WM2D (which I finally discovered stands for Working Model 2D) and how they tried their designs on it. But I went to their web site, and they want about 3 grand for it!  Yikes!  Am I to believe that all these overunity forum members actually laid down that kind of money for this software?? And its only 2D!  They must be more dedicated to this than I realized!  I'd love to have a copy, but at THAT price, I think I'll just live without.  Sure could use it right now, though.