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The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.

Started by gurangax, April 24, 2014, 02:40:13 PM

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mondrasek

Quote from: gurangax on May 23, 2014, 09:19:18 AM

can you send the file. The sim was not drawn to scale it was to show how it will work. I have posted some other videos showing falling levers and weights which indeed gained energy during the fall.


regards

Sure.  I did not label the GPE measurements clearly.  They are placed close to the elements they represent.  They are also not "zeroed" beyond ~.005J.

gurangax

Quote from: mondrasek on May 23, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
Sure.  I did not label the GPE measurements clearly.  They are placed close to the elements they represent.  They are also not "zeroed" beyond ~.005J.


That was just to show how well the principle is. try changing the crossbar mass to 2kg.


regards


p.s. you might need to add aditional crossbar extension so the lever doesn't move out of place

zoelra

 Bessler said:
"He will be called a great craftsman, who can easily/lightly throw a heavy thing high, if one pound falls a quarter, it shoots four pounds, four quarters high."


Depending upon the interpretation, "if one pound falls a quarter, it shoots" either "four pounds four quarters high" or "each pound one quarter high".


I'm not discrediting your findings but your principle does not match Bessler's own description of the principle.  Your fall distance appears to be over 7 times the raised height.  You may have found "a" solution but it does not sound like you found Bessler's solution.


p.s. You were correct, our solutions are not the same.  Luckily my discovery is safe for the moment.


gurangax

Quote from: zoelra on May 23, 2014, 10:42:09 AM
Bessler said:
"He will be called a great craftsman, who can easily/lightly throw a heavy thing high, if one pound falls a quarter, it shoots four pounds, four quarters high."


Depending upon the interpretation, "if one pound falls a quarter, it shoots" either "four pounds four quarters high" or "each pound one quarter high".


I'm not discrediting your findings but your principle does not match Bessler's own description of the principle.  You may have found "a" solution but it does not sound like you found Bessler's solution.


well I did read about this and I find it to be strange phenomenon if it were true. It clearly violates conservation of energy. I think the translation must be investigated again. I have no problem linking Bessler to the mechanism I found because everything fits eye witness accounts or Bessler's words. It could be that he found other mechanism as well which were able to do what he was saying. If this was the case then it must be a truely powerful wheel.


regards

Marsing


Quote from: zoelra on May 23, 2014, 10:42:09 AM
Bessler said:
"He will be called a great craftsman, who can easily/lightly throw a heavy thing high, if one pound falls a quarter, it shoots four pounds, four quarters high."


zoelra,

is your finding fit with those  words?

gurangax,

can you reduce the resolution of all your vid  less than 1024*xxxx pixels and re post here ? i see black screen.