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[omnicognic]

Here is the website for this devices creators and their challenge:
http://www.steorn.net/frontpage/default.aspx

[garry s]

Hi everybody,


"If the law of conservation of energy is wrong, it?s incumbent on those making the claim to publish a mathematical proof or experimental evidence for peer review and examination.
There has not been a single claim of free energy that has withstood that requirement"

This is the perpertual argument between the thinkers and the doers.
A doer, builds a device and becasue he doesnt really know what he is doing, he makes a mistake here and there and sometimes advances in science come from this, sometimes huge evolutions in our thinking come from a simple mistake.
The thinker looks at this and asks for some sort of proof of a broken rule or law, to make this possible and to make this comprehendable for him.
The doer, did, he has the proof it works, right there, on his test bench and it works.
The thinker cant comprehend it working and the doer cant explain it, in terms the thinker can understand .... stalemate.
Will the thinker ever go and see it working .... no because if he cant figure out it can be real, then its never going to be worth the cost of the trip.
Does the doer ever need to go to the thinker and show him its real, of course not hes got the proof right there in his hands.
Its not like the thinker is going to be able to finance him onto the market with his device ?
The final nail in this cofin is, even if the thinker goes and has a look and see's it with his own eyes, we have already established, he doesnt know how it could possibly work, so hes going away thinking about how it was faked, not how it actually worked ?
Garry Stanley 

[Doug1]

My children do not pay the electric bill,they have free electric. They do not contribute in any way except to neglect turning off the lights not in use. That is hardly a contribution.
  Most peoples objective. To independently produce your own electricity for your own consumption. Best case, to do that and reproduce the device for market so others may also be independent. Requirement for success being that it is far less expensive then the present system being used. It would be be just dandy if did not pollute the planet in the process. If you built such a device without spending any money for the materials the knit pickers would take your time spent toward that goal and measure it against the time you could have worked and earned money with that time. Comparing the money you would possibly save against the money you could have possible made. There by making it not free even if you did not take any money out of pocket to complete it.
  Who would have a problem with it and why should be of equal importance.   

[Bob Smith]

I'm going to re-post a slightly abridged version of something I stated in another thread. I believe it applies here as well:

Overunity cannot be achieved within a closed system, and purportedly closed systems that exhibit overunity are doing things that effectively nullify their status as closed systems.

A permanent magnet is in its simplest form an open system, converging energy in its most raw form from the dielectric at the dielectric plane, or what is commonly referred to as the Bloch Wall, and diverging it outward at its poles. A magnet is an open system device.

But there are systems with certain characteristic oscillations which foster dielectric convergence as well.  If evaluated as closed systems in terms of internal losses, they fail the overunity test without a doubt.  BUT if their interplay with the dielectric realm (as open systems) is taken into account as they are evaluated, they pass the overunity test.  Oh my.

Do we have to re-write the laws of physics to allow for this interplay with the dielectric realm?  I don't think so. It's simply a matter of acknowledging that certain conditions will take us beyond parameters within which closed system dynamics apply.  Within such conditions, closed system criteria simply cannot account for the overunity behavior of setups which interact with the dielectric realm. Again, these systems are always going to be less than 100% efficient when evaluated as closed systems. 

Analysing overunity (>1 COP) systems using only closed system criteria is closed-minded. 
Bob

[Gabriele]

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