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COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

Started by synchro1, May 07, 2014, 01:25:54 PM

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x_name41


G4RR3ττ

Quote from: wayne49s on July 18, 2014, 03:33:07 PM
Do you see any other chips that might be a bit cheaper that would do the job? I was thinking of using an Arduino controller to control the switching and optimize it experimentally.

An arduino would work perfectly and certainly cuts down on the number of discrete IC's used to time and trigger everything. But I wouldn't expect huge savings, the claimed COP of 50 is a bunch of hooie if you ask me.

Quote from: Farmhand on July 18, 2014, 03:45:43 PM
Won't a DC analogy give a similar result to one half cycle of AC ? We can generate sinusoidal AC if we want to and plenty of
(out of phase power) as well but that's just another loss. Why can't we do it with DC ?

Sure, it will work the same. But the problem is that charge efficiency is 50% max, just the same as it is with AC. So that means your battery WILL DEPLETE! This is due to a conservative charge pump LOSING 50% of its charge during the parallel to series transformation, while energy remains constant.

The calcs below show that the energy used after the first cycle is 100 micro joules for both charging and discharging of the capacitor. Power is dependent upon the time constant and is higher for the series circuit as tau is smaller. At any rate, you RETURN only 50% of the charge that you took from the battery. That is you take 100 micro coulombs to charge in parallel (after the first charge cycle) and return 50 micro coulombs during each series discharge.

What this does mean is that the run time can be up to 50 percent longer than it would have otherwise (if using NiCd, as it has good pulse charge/discharge characteristics unlike lead acid). Power to the load, however, is reduced because only the delta in electric potential is used to move current around.

TinselKoala

Quote from: x_name41 on July 18, 2014, 04:06:09 PM
not, schemes so far are wrong, lo the correct scheme :)
Oh, don't start. The circuit you have shown is not more efficient at producing heat than a straight wire connection from the heating element to the battery.

TinselKoala

@Garret: excellent analysis....and @ everybody else: that is why, with a cap charge-discharge system, you have to have the capacitor charging energy coming from somewhere else other than the battery you are charging with the resulting energy. This is not a viable closed-loop idea because of the losses that are inescapable.
But... you set up your electrosmog harvesters or your atmospheric antennae or your Tesla receivers or your xbox wifi, whatever, which can charge the capacitor bank in series to a relatively high voltage. Then you discharge this energy with caps in parallel at a lower voltage, to charge your battery or run your appliance. The charging can take place over longer time periods than the use of the energy, so you wind up ahead. Not overunity but in a sense "free energy" which otherwise is just wasted.

G4RR3ττ

Now if you don't use a conservative capacitor, where energy isn't kept constant, you can have more useful effects. As for "non-conservative" capacitor think dielectric absorption where charges are freely generated by the dielectric due to strain memory, or a "dead" NiCd battery able to keep producing small pulses of current when given small rest periods between discharges. Finally you have plasma capacitors where conservation laws may not be fully applicable. The basic concept of a plasma capacitor uses a small tubular CLF lamp wrapped in tinfoil and it's capacitance, once turned on, jumps up enormously. I haven't tested this last circuit yet, but I think it has promise. There is also the effect of light on ionizing gases, so charges may be freely generated by this circuit due to ambient light; I actually built a small photo detector out of an NE2 to transmit sound over laser light using this principle and it worked fabulously, very non-directional (unlike diode detectors) and surprising linearity.