COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

[Mr Summitville]

Older Electric Meter on the House Mains ...
It has been stated that the older Analog Electric Meters billed exactly the same way
regardless of whether the amperage was "flowing in / consumed" or "flowing out / generated"
in relationship to the voltage cycle.
The Lead/Lag Phase Angle matters but "0 Degrees vs 180 Degrees" did not matter.
Anyone trying to install a Grid-Tie Inverter could not get the benefit of "pushing" amperage
into the Grid until they got a permit and a newer meter.
We MUST get a permit to "push" amperage into the grid.

Offsetting some incoming amperage may be possible, without a permit, though.

[Khwartz]

Hi! Mr Summitville.

Very understand what you have stated but if all done through a transformer and that transformer sees indeed the back and forth power at its secondary to ONLY consum the difference in mean of real power at the primary, this primary been feed by the grid through any power meter you want, the the problem would be no more; wouldn't it?

Cheers.

[Mr Summitville]

Hi! Mr Summitville.

Very understand what you have stated but if all done through a transformer and that transformer sees indeed the back and forth power at its secondary to ONLY consum the difference in mean of real power at the primary, this primary been feed by the grid through any power meter you want, the the problem would be no more; wouldn't it?

Cheers.

Khwatz,
There is a slight language barrier here which is making it hard for me to fully understand exactly what you are stating. so I will re-phrase ...
If all you have is an old style Load Meter, a transformer, a Load and this COP20 circuit then you will *PAY* to pull amperage (consume) from the Grid and you will *PAY* to push amperage (generate) into the Grid.
If there are other loads on the Mains then you may offset / reduce your Billable amperage.

Other issues ...
1) Motors and other inductive loads may not like the instantaneous switch from the Plus Peak Voltage to the Minus Peak Voltage or the instantaneous switch from the Minus Peak Voltage to the Plus Peak Voltage
2) Does the Capacitance value need to be tuned to each specific load value?
3) Does the transformer need to increase sqrt(2) the Mains voltage to compensate for the Capacitor "stealing" half the power in the first quadrant since that is the power that is returned to the load by the caps in the 2nd quadrant.
4) The harmonics are very nasty

OK, this may "work" with small 100 Watt Incandescent Bulb but ...
will it "work" with a 5KW Hot Water Heater?
will it "work" with any device / appliance with a motor?

[Khwartz]

 Mr Summitville.

Sorry if my English is not good enough to give you certainty about what I was saying.

What I have understood is that on the old meter you talk about, it could register both back and forth power and we would pay in both cases.

What I say is that is it not relevant note if we use a transformer and that only the difference between the forth power and back power is seen at the primary of the transformer.

e.g. let's say we have 1kW forwarding toward the load at the secondary side of the transformer and 0.9kW of returning power form the load, still at the secondary side. I assume we would have only ~0.1 kW of real power drained from the grid by the primary of the transformer.

Then, if we have very very little proportion of real power registred by the grid power meter, we don't care of the characteristics of the power grid meter because this meter is in a way "insulted" from the much higher power (active and reactive) which runs on the secondary side of the transformer.

To sum-up, we could even use a battery and an inverter to feed the primary of the transformer and be completely "unplug" and self-running while charging time to time the battery with the secondary power.

If It is not clear enough, I am afraid I am not able to do better explanation in English.

For your other notes in your last post, yes, I do think they could be relevant and just to be checked; imho.

[Khwartz]

* Correction: "this meter is in a way "insulated" from" ....