COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,

[Farmhand]

Well some people are claiming it is a scam, but there are others that have been getting health benefits...

For instance in the comments at this page you can find some:
http://mlmblog.net/site/2010/02/asea-scam.html

Yes well if you increase the amount of water you drink and it is unadulterated by the chemicals from the water treatment plant then
you will feel much better than if you don't drink much water or if you drink a lot of water with bad chemicals in it.

Then there is the placebo effect and testimonials are not to be believed anyway, they are paid for.

Some people do it for a job.
http://www.clear-writing.com/2010/08/how-to-spot-a-fake-testimonial/

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[Farmhand]

AS for the ASEA water debacle, It's salt water, one thing people might not realize is that we are told all the time to reduce salt in
our diet, which is fine if you intake too much salt, but a no or too low salt diet is very dangerous, we need salt it is vital to our
survival. Without enough salt the signals in our bodies are hampered, no salt can lead to death.

Just like oxygen we need it but it wears us out slowly, no one lives for ever. Do we stop breathing oxygen because of oxidants ? No.

So for any people who are low in salt then drinking some salt water will help them immensely. Some people need more salt than others. Enter ASEA (salt water) if you are low in salt it will make a world of difference, but so will increasing you salt intake.

Unless your arteries are hard like copper pipe don't reduce your salt intake. No salt = death.

I watched a documentary on some South American tribe in the Inca times, they had lots of gold and would throw the gold into a lake.
But there was no mines there, the tribe had no way of mining their own gold, as it turns out they were a long way from the coastline and salt was scarce, but they had a well full of saturated salt water, so they produced salt balls and traded it for gold.

The salt was more valuable than gold because gold is just trinkets, salt is life or death.

Basically if you intake the correct amount of salts and water and don't take in a lot of chemicals you'll do ok as long as there is no
illness.

ASEA: Another Expensive Way to Buy Water
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/asea-another-expensive-way-to-buy-water/

Asea Scam?
http://www.lazymanandmoney.com/asea-scam/

Of course it is a free world, people can recommend it and others can point to it being a falsity. Balance.

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Stress is a bigger killer than salt. But the medico's don't tell everyone to take a vallium and have a lay down, that would seriously
reduce their income. People not stressed out have a lot less health problems.

Unless the ASEA can regenerate my degenerated discs it's no use to me, I need a surgeon and some screws and rods to fix me. 

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[picowatt]

PW. Would that cause the phase angle to alter so that the measured power V and I input is more out of phase or something ?
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Farmhand, I do not know.  Like you, I would need to see the circuit.

Considering what is claimed, however, it just seems odd that no measurements have been provided of the actual AC line input.  There could be an acceptable reason for not providing line input measurements, I don't know.  I am surprised, however,  that no one here or at Energetic has asked about it.

I also wonder how much power the switching circuit consumes.  It would be interesting to see the total power consumed/returned at the line (driver included) versus whatever is dissipated in the load resistor.   

Again, maybe the AC line input data has been provided somewhere and I just haven't seen it.

PW

[hartiberlin]

In the new Babcock-Murray Serps circuit presented at the Bedini 2014 conference
the actual line input AC voltage is regular 60 Hz sine wave.

They did not publish this in the first left scopeshot, cause that would have given the
timing away...but the comparison of both scopeshots gives it away anyway, so that is why I wrote
it was an eye opener...

I think I know now, how it is working.
I pondered all day long now about it.

Imagine a sine 60 Hz wave input.
One cycle is 0 to 360 degrees.

It seems they just charge 2 caps in parallel via the lamps load from 30 to 90 degrees from the line voltage.
After this they electronically disconnect the 2 caps and put them in series
and at around 100 degrees , they discharge the 2 series caps back to the line voltage  versus the lamps again to about 160 degrees.
This way they have double the sine peak voltage to be able to discharge the 2 series caps and drive negative current back to the grid
through the lamps !

Then the same thing happens for the negative half wave of the sine wave.

At around 210 degrees the 2 caps are again switched in Parallel into the line voltage via the lamps in series and charged
until around 270 degrees up to the peak voltage of the 60 Hz sine wave.
Then at 280 degrees, the 2 caps are put in series and again discharged via the lamps back to the grid until around 340 degrees.
So again energy is returned to grid via the lamps as the load.

It is basically a very easy circuit, but you have to have the right timing and the right load impedance (lamp resistance in Ohm in this case),
so that the areas in the input power MATH trace above and
below the ground line are about equal.

So you minimize the real active input power and try to get the aparent input power
the same as the reactive input power. If you get it right, you will only have reactive input power
and almost no Real active input power. Thus a COP of about 50 as they have shown at the conference can be real !

Great circuit !

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

From the scopeshots you can also see, that the timing is 5 milliseconds/DIV and
that one cycle is about 16.6 milliseconds long, which is exactly 60 Hz AC !
So they are just using the normal 60 Hz sine wave from the grid, probably via
a Variac or isolating transformer, so that is why they wrote the label on the scopeshot
as Transformer output.
But they meant the input power from the grid...

Regards, Stefan.