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[MarkE]

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The auto companies are owned by the same companies that own big oil.

No they are not.  You cannot name one car company and an oil company that owns that car company.
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I am not taking any position in this discussion, but I don't think he means owned in a legal sense. Most of us know what the big American families are up to, and there does not take much time to check out the interests presented by the Rockefeller-family and the since many years closely connected Morgans- and Rothschilds. They have big interests to secure.

The return to the (joys) of a feudal system is well on its way and there is much to criticize about that.  But wrong is wrong.  He said oil companies own car companies and they do not.

A personal friend of me works at one of our Swedish car companies as an engine developer.  When presenting a variety of the HHO-effect, with a quite sophisticated system that utilized a preheated fuel injection instead of using HHO, but with virtually the same enhanced combustion effect, his fully working alternative was rejected and when asking for an explanation he was told that the car company does not benefit from anything that too radically starts to threaten the economic stability of the oil industry. There is a balance maintained in those industrial sectors, making the money continue to flow up as planned.

Your unverified story is difficult to reconcile with the absolute fact of the billions that car companies have competitively put into increasing fuel efficiency.  There is no trail of money that I know of into car companies from oil companies.  One could postulate that the boards and management have under the table, and therefore illegal deals with oil companies that would result in things like your story.  Such ideas are just postulates until someone comes up with hard evidence.

And money flows up. That's the very idea with the present monetary system, it's designed to effectively shunt the flow, making it more easy to increase ones riches the richer one is. :-) 

Feudalism lives and is growing.

The validity of the concept Over-Unity is of course questionable, but theoretically any energy harvested from an unknown source initially would be regarded as Over-Unity until the source is detected and categorized into our present scientific belief system.

Yes, and there is no problem with that.

I am pretty sure most guys at this forum knows Over-Unity for what it is - A description of something yet to incorporate into the existing thermo dynamic laws.

Cheers,

Gwandau

[utilitarian]

The validity of the concept Over-Unity is of course questionable, but theoretically any energy harvested from an unknown source initially would be regarded as Over-Unity until the source is detected and categorized into our present scientific belief system.

I am pretty sure most guys at this forum knows Over-Unity for what it is - A description of something yet to incorporate into the existing thermo dynamic laws.

You know, this sounds plausible, but it has never worked out this way.  No credible scientist ever found some magical energy and said, hey, there is no source for this!  Look, energy for nothing!!  Think about all the energy sources man has tapped over the centuries?  Has the source of that energy ever been a mystery?  Sure, the exact how and why may not have been immediately clear, but it has never appeared like it was energy from nowhere.  Fire always consumed something, early battery cells would drain, and the Sun, well the Sun has always been pretty visible up there, and it sure looks like it is burning something.


You want to know some truth?  I have some truth.  The truth is, this website is a waste of time, and I am guilty as anyone of wasting time on it in the past.  Guys like Mr. Burgeson here, and no offense to Mr. Burgeson, he is no doubt an intelligent person, but he is gravely misinformed.  People like Mr. Burgeson, arguing with them about these simple things is like shooting fish in a barrel.  You are guaranteed to be right.  It does not matter where exactly the free energy proponent made a mistake, but he for sure made a mistake somewhere, or he would not arrive at the answer he has.


It is like someone taking a $10 roll of quarters, breaking and mixing up the quarters, and then stacking them in various and elaborate ways and claiming, "Hey, I have $10.75 here!"  No, you don't.  They may line them up this way or that way, in lines or stacks or pyramids.  It does not matter.  You do not have to count every stack or figure out where they made a mistake, but for sure they made a mistake somewhere.


To be honest, if you are a skeptic, meaning a normal freaking person with a high school understanding of math and science, you do not belong here.  If you are a normal person, you are a troll on this board.  I do not know why reasonable people like MarkE here, and TK and others even post here.  There is nothing to be learned, nothing to be gained.  Just entertainment value, I guess, making fun of the poor individuals caught in some kind of glitch where they refuse to see simple evidence.

[raburgeson]

Well there is this hot off the press:

http://thespiritscience.net/2014/05/25/volkswagens-new-300-mpg-car-not-allowed-in-america-because-it-is-too-efficient

This says it all!  -  Why no copy and paste for links?

[CANGAS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBnlXGvA1Wk

In US gallons 62 mpg. Now go check the mileage sticker in the US. I look up info before I post to make sure I understand correctly. I'm no ford fan but, what happened to the guy that was eeking 300 mpg out of a ford V8? A simple software hack of a Toyota hybrid over 300 MPG? The people in EU are getting taken too.

I had a 68 Buick Sport Wagon with a clogged fuel filter and a 350 CID engine giving me 35 MPG and that car weighed 2 1/2 times what a car weighs today and I repeat we are being screwed. The auto companies are owned by the same companies that own big oil. In 1966 they said, oh no we can't produce cars that run on propane they would have 20 percent less power. Then they reground the cam increasing valve over lap and reduced the HP 20%. They didn't stop there, they increased back pressure with a catalytic converter and lowered the compression ratio. You are paying for a computer in the car that makes it impossible to lean the fuel unless you build a circuit to trick it. Ask the water for gas people, they will give you a complete history on this if you need it.

They have a circuit ready for sale if you'd like too.

WTF?

Then they reground the cam increasing valve over lap and reduced the HP 20%.

Many decades ago one of the first tricks the Hot Rodders learned was that increasing overlap was the way to get more horsepower (HP). Of course the auto company engineers had learned that first.

But you tell me that MORE overlap is REDUCED HP!

Maybe you got a little mixed up?

How much more of what you say is a little mixed up?


CANGAS 41

[Cap-Z-ro]

In furtherance to previous points debated...

The owners of the oil and car companies are at the very least in fact pedophiles by proxy, and very possibly active pedophiles to the most depraved levels...bots have seats around their "enhanced" global monopoly table, where you and I are all commodities...and a most readily disposable one at that.

And to profess by implication, misdirection, or distraction that we do not exist in an electro magnetic medium, easily tapped by simply using the correct method is to open ones self up for criticism and negative speculation.

Regards...