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[CuriousChris]

And yet over that same period of time SP, and MP fuel injection in automobiles became common as did direct injection in Diesel engines.  So if Shell's intent was to prevent fuel efficiency improvements, why didn't they block fuel injection developments?  Have you considered that a smart businessperson tries to identify trends and get ahead of those trends in a profitable way?

It only proves that you can't suppress innovation. No matter how big and wealthy and powerful you may be. you can only slow it down.

They held off the inevitable for a period of time. but patents expire and there are plenty willing to make a buck. but If you don't accept what I say and you should know already I am a major sceptic on conspiracy theories so I am not likely to support this sort of thing without proof, find out for yourself its easy to do.

Google patents held by shell oil of Canada. You will see hundreds from the 50s through to the eighties all related to fuel saving devices. Perhaps Shell themselves actually developed these patents perhaps they actively suppressed them. I cant really say. But at the time I thought they were suppressing them.

The thing that struck me as really really odd was it was Shell Oil of Canada. Not Shell Oil international nor Mobil or Caltex. Why Shell Oil of Canada. I figured there was legal reasons but did not have the resources to find out why that may be so.

[CANGAS]

And yet over that same period of time SP, and MP fuel injection in automobiles became common as did direct injection in Diesel engines.  So if Shell's intent was to prevent fuel efficiency improvements, why didn't they block fuel injection developments?  Have you considered that a smart businessperson tries to identify trends and get ahead of those trends in a profitable way?

MarkE, I have already praised your skill at trying to pervert a discussion. Now you are still trying to outdo your previous performance. You sure have bravado!

You have (as a joke, perhaps?) suggested that Shell bought , and , therefore, controlled the use of, all those patents because they just wanted to learn about business trends that might naffect the oil business. Well, uhhhh, why go to all the expense of buying the patents when ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS JUST READ THE PATENT WHEN IT WAS ISSUED AND PUBLISHED??? 

THE IMPORTANT QUESTION IS.....WHY DID SHELL WANT TO BUY THE PATENTS ON METHODS TO GREATLY REDUCE THE CONSUMPTION OF OIL??


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[MarkE]

MarkE, I have already praised your skill at trying to pervert a discussion. Now you are still trying to outdo your previous performance. You sure have bravado!

You have (as a joke, perhaps?) suggested that Shell bought , and , therefore, controlled the use of, all those patents because they just wanted to learn about business trends that might naffect the oil business.Well, uhhhh, why go to all the expense of buying the patents when ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS JUST READ THE PATENT WHEN IT WAS ISSUED AND PUBLISHED??? 

THE IMPORTANT QUESTION IS.....WHY DID SHELL WANT TO BUY THE PATENTS ON METHODS TO GREATLY REDUCE THE CONSUMPTION OF OIL??


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I suggest that you reread what I wrote.  Businesses buy into promising technologies in their field all the time.  Do you think that PriceLine just bought Open Table so that they can shelve it?  Buying into a technology that if successful would cut into a company's core business is called hedging.  It is rather routine.  It does not have to be the least bit sinister.  You have yet to show that Shell did anything untoward.  You need to show where they bought up technology rights and then kept them from the market.  So far, all you have is them buying some technology rights.  You need to come up with the other half.

[sarkeizen]

Google patents held by shell oil of Canada.

You're going to have to be more specific.  A Canadian patent search on "Shell oil" and "fuel" returns 40 results.  Majority of which are about fuel composition.   Most of them appear to be held by Shell USA too.

[CuriousChris]

You're going to have to be more specific.  A Canadian patent search on "Shell oil" and "fuel" returns 40 results.  Majority of which are about fuel composition.   Most of them appear to be held by Shell USA too.

Remembering I am referring back 30 years...

I definitely recall it as being Shell Canada but nonetheless I limited the search to just Shell...

This search has 167 hits on just one type of system which I was researching at the time

https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=inassignee:%22Shell+Oil+Co%22#hl=en&q=inassignee%3A%22Shell%22+vaporize+internal+combustion&tbm=pts

Given some time and a little inclination I think I could do better than a quick 5 minute attempt