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Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner

Started by Jeg, May 13, 2014, 01:55:44 AM

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Jeg

May 13, 2014, 01:55:44 AM
Hey guys
I find it very interesting and a very educative OU patent. Switches A,B,C open and close through the motor shaft, which can be replaced by mosfets. When A is closed, B,C are open and the opposite. Benitez has a very nice description of how it works in the patent PDF. A brief explanation would be like this:

We charge C1 externally from a battery or a wimshurst generator while B,C are closed. Then B,C are open and A closes. When A closes, after producing some hf oscillations, capacitor C9 is charging through the ground. Then B,C close again and C1 charges from C9 and the cycle continues for ever.

I will start with a question to let it roll. How cap 9 charges from the ground at an open circuit? I have tried in the past to charge a cap being grounded, but if the circuit is open the cap just don't charge. Do you think that with very high voltage something happens there? Is it possible for the cap to charge from a rectified secondary in an open circuit if its very HV??? 

Jeg

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May 13, 2014, 02:31:37 AM
Ignore my question as I just confirmed this with a simple setup experiment. Yes! Capacitor can be charged with hv in an open circuit. I have seen this again from a Don Smith's demonstration but I had forgot it. Any comments on the drawing?

Ps. Look the direction of the diodes from secondary 4 charging cap5. Isn't it completely unconventional? Great info though from which someone can understand that no matter the direction, one side always give voltage and the other current as per Don's theory.!

e2matrix

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May 13, 2014, 03:38:42 PM
It appears most of the diodes in this setup are arranged as Avramenko plugs.    Interesting setup.   I can see potential in a number of ways with it.   

conradelektro

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May 13, 2014, 03:56:32 PM
@Jeg:

I can not find the patent.

From which country is it? Is it an application number or a patent number? May be you have a link to the PDF-file.

Greetings, Conrad

a.king21

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May 13, 2014, 04:52:52 PM
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191417811A.pdf
is the patent. Note there are 2 variations indicated by the dotted line.
The dotted line version is simpler.
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