1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

[centraflow]

I am pretty shure now that the lever to the plate is a bush. The whole idea is to keep the weights from being directly powered by the motor, for example if you stopped the weights moving, the motor would carry on, the lever would just turn in the bush going through the plate.


I'm trying to put logic into the workings on the basis that the input does not really see the output.


regards


Mike

[centraflow]

Here is the update with the device using the universal joint on the bottom shaft.

The device performs more like seen in the film but the load is still reflected back to the prime mover. I tried everything I could think of and finally decided to take the upper lever out of the circular drive and turn it by hand while the bottom generator is under load (bulb).

By turning the lever in a circle motion I could feel an equal pressure throughout the 360 degrees and the bulb load would not light.

By turning the lever in an elliptical orbit the top weight would fall and cause a change in angle to the mid plate which would make the bottom weight swing around and the bulb would light for that moment. There is a pressure point at the turning points of the elliptical orbit but there is also an acceleration when the top weight falls, so it may come close to being neutral to the prime mover (other than friction losses) but this remains to be tested.

Now looking for recommendations on how I can easily convert my top gear so the lever is turned in an elliptical orbit to further test this possibility of being the right thing.

Luc

Exactly luc, it is eliptical, logic tells us that because of the use of a gimbal.


Let me think about your setup, I will have to look at your vid again as to how you have it.


Remember just about all is free wheeling apart from that fulcrum with the cams on either end which is powered by the motor.


regards


Mike

[mscoffman]

See a gyroscope (see Wikipedia) is only 1/2 an energy producing device. That is; if the rotor is rotating, then if you
push on the top rotor bearing - only then does the gyroscope push back with limited energy. That's not good enough for an
energy producing device, because you have to put energy in before you get any back out. But let us attach a second
mirror image another gyroscope, this one wobbles under it's own tendency. Then we mechanically compare these two
gyroscopes. This allows us extract energy out of the two (gimbal) based on what the two are doing differently.

The thing is what drives the gyroscopes is a rigid rotating flywheel rotor. Pushing on a bearing should not affect the amount
of energy stored in the rotating rotor flywheel. So the universe is supplying the energy for it to push it's bearing back
upright. So the extra energy you extract should be independent of the rotor energy. That is what the pulsating drive mechanism
does it keeps the flywheel rotor rotating but then disconnects so it nothing affects that rotor energy any longer - until next time.

So rotor losses are minimal but you have extracted extra gain energy that you can integrate back into the turning output shaft.

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But, you say; there are no gyroscopes...Yes there are, based on the solids-of-rotation of the rotating weights. He has 4 units
each one out-of-phase with one another by 90 degrees. These all cancel out error-forces of the each other. For example if
he had eight of these at 45 degrees out of phase each, then the total device would run even smoother. Like calculus-math
as these go to a limit, they approach the operation of a solid rotating rotor. In this case all errors forces would cancel. Virtual
then become real.

() It's as if; at any point in the device there are two different units interacting at that point, the virtual device and
the error device. The virtual device is like the perfect gyroscope, the error device has a bunch of wobbles and vibrations
due to synthesis that you want the mechanism to eat (damp) these before they build up and wreck the device or its cycle.

()Like a electrical wire, as in a mechanical link, forces can flow both ways on any linkage. They can flow all in one direction or they can
be comparators or averagers to force subsystems into synchronization in both directions. That makes it tricky to analyze.

()these devices are linked in a mechanical cycles so they are forced to repeat the same phase space time and time again. Make
some energy once, then don't self destruct, then make some again.

I'm not smart enough to see if all these mechanical laws are inevitably linked in a manner to conserve energy,
which is why experiments make sense.

One thing he needs to be careful with is his electric motor is also a bidirectional linkage as configured.

[i_ron]

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Now looking for recommendations on how I can easily convert my top gear so the lever is turned in an elliptical orbit to further test this possibility of being the right thing.

Luc

Luc, just move the top drive off centre, and keep the circle drive... you will get it to speed up and slow down just like an ellipse would.


You will get one pulse per revolution... this is why William has gone to four units, not just for balance but
for a continuous chain of pulses.


Ron

[i_ron]

Luc, just move the top drive off centre, and keep the circle drive... you will get it to speed up and slow down just like an ellipse would.


You will get one pulse per revolution... this is why William has gone to four units, not just for balance but
for a continuous chain of pulses.


Ron

Addendum:  With the centres offset and constant rotation of the red drive circle the top end of the drive
has a greater portion of the circumference to travel on the left side as versus the right side, hence giving
a speeding up and slowing down of the drive rod which is centred on "B"


It is a constantly changing radius, as the radius increases the top of the rod has to travel faster... as the
radius diminishes the rod connection slows down.


Sketch scale exaggerated of course


Ron