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1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%

Started by cipbranea, May 21, 2014, 01:38:08 AM

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noonespecial

Quote from: webby1 on July 02, 2014, 04:28:37 PM
Is there any information from Mr. Skinner that he used an elliptical path for either the upper drive system or the lower drive system?

In the video I only hear the announcer saying that the weights go round and round.

In a newspaper article about him and his device, he describes the weights as rotating 'in a circular motion'. I think some have mistakenly re-interpreted his comment regarding 'eccentrics' to mean elliptical. But eccentric simply means off-center. The circular rotation of the upper drive system is mirrored in the lower circular rotation of the unbalanced weights.

d3x0r

I dunno about elliptical... the top is actually driven by flat levers that go back and forth, but then below their pivot is another pivot 90 degrees to that; looks like a offset conventional universal joint kinda...  (well no, a universal joint is a + so both joints at one level) I guess, since the bottom pivot is offset from the top, the result will be a ellipse with a wider throw from the top pivot.. but it doesn't HAVE to be, the throw side to side might be longer itself resulting in a circle...


was trying to track down how power was gotten... guess the bottom is sorta a knuckle joint that goes to gears that go to a common gear that drives a 90 degree offset shaft to that...


the path of the top of the long axis looks circular to me....

the oppositing sides are 180 degrees separated; so I guess each is 90 degree separation

image composite from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxIRaJlTD4Y 
(didn't have the bottom and top in one shot)

noonespecial

Quote from: webby1 on July 05, 2014, 09:04:38 AM
Thanks,,

no ellipse then,, not to say that an ellipse could not be used,, just that it does not look like Mr. Skinner used one.


Agreed. Also interesting is the fact that he states that the weights don't actually fall (but are simply rotated to a new COG by the angle change).

If they don't fall, they don't rise. Based on this as well, there would be no reason to depart from a straight-forward simple rotary motion. Elliptical would seem to be an unnecessary complication.

d3x0r

Quote from: noonespecial on July 05, 2014, 09:34:29 AM

Agreed. Also interesting is the fact that he states that the weights don't actually fall (but are simply rotated to a new COG by the angle change).

If they don't fall, they don't rise. Based on this as well, there would be no reason to depart from a straight-forward simple rotary motion. Elliptical would seem to be an unnecessary complication.
they fall... if it's on a tilted axis, moving the axis raises the COG and allows it to fall again...

it may be (and probably is) inperceptable... as soon as you move the top, they start to move, so it doesn't raise very much....

noonespecial

If you consider your first diagram, and even though B is not fixed to A, rotating A causes B to rotate in a horizontal circle. There could be some initial raising of the lower at startup, but once it is rotating, centripetal force will keep it rotating in a flat horizontal circle.