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Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

Started by TheoriaApophasis, July 13, 2014, 04:20:12 AM

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picowatt

Quote from: MileHigh on July 22, 2014, 02:54:52 AM
Brad:

There is a logical follow-up experiment that will just reinforce what PW already stated.  What you want to do is make an electromagnet that allows the current to "bloom" out of the entire metal cylinder.

So as a suggestion, take the metal cylinder and wrap a single spiral of insulated magnet wire around where you leave a decent and noticeable gap between each turn of the spiral.  You could tack down each end of the magnet wire using Krazy Glue or something.  Now when you repeat the experiment, the electric current will be able to "bloom" off of a large portion of the metal cylinder.  Thus you will now have a setup where the current "bloom" off of the regular cylindrical magnet and the current "bloom" off of the metal cylinder of the electromagnet will be very similar.  Therefore you can expect to see a vortex in the electrolyte for the electromagnet and it will be approximately the same as the case for the magnet.

There you go, that's real science for you.

MileHigh

MH,

I was thinking of a steel or iron core of similar size to the neo.  Wind a coil with an ID greater than the OD of the core, such that a .5" to 1" gap exists all around between the core OD and coil ID.  Electrical connection to the core would be similar to the neo via the plate the core rests upon.  This should provide a close analog and the gap should allow enough electrolyte to spin to produce a somewhat similar vortex.

The core length may have to be extended due to the gap between the core and coil.

But were getting a bit ahead here.  Still waiting on Tinman's video...

PW

picowatt

Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on July 22, 2014, 02:59:50 AM

Let me give you a clue AGAIN- 

"magnets" are CREATED by discharging capacitor banks THRU THE (pre-) "POLES" (at which time they are of course a "PRE-magnetized [rather pre-dielectrified]" ceramics),

they are merely the geometric faces MEANT for polarization.


see below:

Come on.  Show a little commitment and answer the question.

Do you think taping the sides of the neo have any effect on the observed vortex in Tinman's upcoming video?

PW

TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: picowatt on July 22, 2014, 03:05:43 AM
Come on.  Show a little commitment and answer the question.
PW


Ohh, you thought I was wiggling?


You asked TINMAN-----It may be informative to repeat your test using a neo wrapped in electrical tape.  Simply wrap the tape around the magnet leaving only the very poles exposed (i.e., insulate the sides from the electrolyte).  See if you still have a bubble vortex under similar conditions to your previous test.


Will he have it?  YES


The inertial plane in ANY magnet is concentrated at the center because it is FORCED THERE, by the magnetism


However it is present at EVERY plane from the top to the bottom of any and all "magnets"



As any dufus will note, bringing 2 NEOS together the inertial plane will shift IMMEDIATELY to the midpoint between the two,      (just like gravity does , .....yes, there is a connection).


Cut a magnet along the "poles" 1000 times, you will have 1000 new inertial planes, its "incommensurate"


Its "non-point specific and incommensurable thru the entire magneto-dielectric object" (i.e. the "magnet")

picowatt

Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on July 22, 2014, 02:59:50 AM

Let me give you a clue AGAIN- 

"magnets" are CREATED by discharging capacitor banks THRU THE (pre-) "POLES" (at which time they are of course "PRE-magnetized [rather pre-dielectrified]" ceramics),

Also at which time, they are merely the geometric faces MEANT for polarization resultant from changing the magneto-dielectric geometry of the entire piece(s) from the discharge placed thru them, ,of which, a portion is retained.      Ergo, the 'permanent' magnet.


see below:

You do realize the capacitor banks are discharged through coils, creating a large electromagnet (the poles of which are visible in your first picture)?

The poles of the previously weakly magnetized new magnet material are placed in contact with the electromagnet's pole pieces and a cap bank discharged into the coil(s) of the electromagnet to magnetize the new magnet.

Electrical current is not discharged through the core of the new magnet.

PW

(electrical current is typically used prior to sintering to produce the weak magnetic alignment in the raw magnet.  But in the images of the magnetizer, no current flows between its two pole pieces)

TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: picowatt on July 22, 2014, 03:21:38 AM
You do realize the capacitor banks are discharged through coils, 

Yup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHuWloNGo6c&list=UUh3cY-IW8QsEFmAh-TAWwrw


Quote from: picowatt on July 22, 2014, 03:21:38 AM
The poles of the previously weakly magnetized new magnet material are placed in contact with the electromagnet's pole pieces and a cap bank discharged into the coil(s) of the electromagnet to magnetize the new magnet.


Magnets are not "MAGNETIZED", thats magnetic induction from a magnet TO a piece of iron IN THE MAG FIELD, for example.  That is magnetic field INDUCTION.
a "magnet" has an enormous dis-equalibrium between the interatomic magneto-dielectric, also as increased by the NeoFeBoron ceramic structure.


That powerful Neo "magnet" you THINK is a magnet has (under perfect conditions)   3.23606 parts dielectricity to 1 part magnetism


However centripetal radial , inertial dielectricity  IS NOT POLARIZED (obviously) AND HAS NO FERRO-ATTRACTIVE EFFECTS..


HENCE,  the stupid human creatures only "see"  the results of the MAGNETIC portion of that NEO magnet which you (WRONGLY) think is a "magnet"


All that magnetism IN a NEO is powered by the charge potential increase FROM the discharged electromagnetic coils INTO the entire F-ing Neo-Fe-Boron "pre-magnet".



(especially in the hexagonal lattice of the Neo iron boron ceramics)


Quote from: picowatt on July 22, 2014, 03:21:38 AM
Electrical current is not discharged through the core of the new magnet.

Who the HELL mentioned the word  "CORE"   ???????   

Current is discharged thru the ENTIRE F-ing magnet, which creates, resultantly this magneto-dielectric structure:

I said the dielectric was CONCENTRATED (as displaced by the magnetism) at the 'equator' of any and all magnets.   Thanks for claiming something I didnt say.



Its been called the "magnetic PINCH EFFECT" since, I recall,   1958


The "pinch" is due to magnetic and dielectric field conjugation in a BINDING SYSTEM (the magnet) and the dis-equilibrium created in the interatomic from the electrification of the magnet.

Does the word "induction" ring a bell to you?   (not magnetic INDUCTION), but the induction used to CREATE a "magnet".