Overunity electrolysis - 31 times more effective gas production than with DC

[Les Banki]

Kator01,

I am aware of Frank Znidarsic but his ideas/theories are based on QM (Quantum Mechanics) which is absolute CRAP!
I have known that (but without proof) for about 30 years.

Recently, however, 'proof' was/is supplied by a guy who is posting on THIS forum as well as on 'energeticforum.com' under the name
of 'TheoriaApophasis'.
His real name is Ken Lee Wheeler.
Check out his numerous posts but be warned, you will never be the same again!


Chet,

Sorry, but Arie DeGues' Patent has little, if anything, to do with the subject being discussed here.
Note the use of hydrocarbon fuels which I am DEAD AGAINST!


profitis,

See?  You are not only admitting that you haven't read the documents but 'proved' it as well with your second statement about using catalyst.
If you have read the articles you would have clearly seen that BOTH experiments used catalyst in the water!

Perhaps now you can see how silly it is to make comments before you read!

wings,

I have been (but others might not be) aware of Professor Kanarev's work for many years.
Note the timing difference on the oscilloscope image.
His timing is in the ms range while the nano-pulse method we are discussing here is in the ns range!
In other words, a difference of two orders of magnitude!

Regards to all,
Les Banki

[MarkE]

Are you certain about that "real name"?  Are you sure it isn't Denise Anderson?

[Marshallin]

OK, then in that case, I have one more question:  In their paper it can be seen that hte secondary current has a big spike and then a long tail.  THeir hypothesis was that prolonged current conduction would result in the formation of a double layer that would hinder efficiency. Do you want a circuit that produces a long current tail like theirs, or only a short current pulse that is fully extinguished in half a microsecond or less?

Hi Mark, honestly i am not sure here. I did experiment(unsuccesfull) with theree igbts in paraler (simple circuit driven by DDS with ar), what does short voltage and current spikes. Like induction i have RF ferroxcube rod 200mm with 5 layers (4+1) of winding (0,8 mm smalted wire). Guesing that induction or driver circuit are wrong. I have some old big toroid i will try rewind that beast next weekend.

I want to simulate samehow same osciloscope waveform like they have (without sith). I would be gratefull for any ideas from you or others.

[MarkE]

Hi Mark, honestly i am not sure here. I did experiment(unsuccesfull) with theree igbts in paraler (simple circuit driven by DDS with ar), what does short voltage and current spikes. Like induction i have RF ferroxcube rod 200mm with 5 layers (4+1) of winding (0,8 mm smalted wire). Guesing that induction or driver circuit are wrong. I have some old big toroid i will try rewind that beast next weekend.

I want to simulate samehow same osciloscope waveform like they have (without sith). I would be gratefull for any ideas from you or others.

There are basically two ways to go:
1) As they did with a flyback topology.  The flyback arrangement has long current tails very visible in their oscilloscope captures.  The problem that I see with those long tails is that they defeat the idea of conducting only a large current for a short time.  For low voltage application such as theirs, a MOSFET with a driver that has good pull-down characteristics will do the job.  Turn-on is not so critical because the current is zero at turn-on.  You can use an off the shelf MOSFET driver, or roll one out of a couple of transistors and some discretes.  It depends on what is available to you parts-wise, and what kind of soldering equipment that you have.  The nice thing about the flyback configuration is that the output voltage just builds until current conducts.

2) A capacitive discharge topology.  This will yield very short duration, high power pulses.  For this sort of arrangement, I would charge up a polypropylene or polystyrene discharge capacitor using a flyback converter to a couple hundred volts and then discharge that with a MOSFET, or for higher power an IGBT.  In this configuration, it is the turn-on time that matters much more than the turn-off time.

[Acca]

 My response to Les Banki,

Thanks for the following  post as you are right Overunity dot com is infiltrated with self appointed paid "shills" to kill any idea that has a any potential of any fruition, there is NO DEBATE at all !! It's just cut and gut the whole idea...
How does one get 10,000 posts like TinselKoala or Milehigh 2900 in a short time ??
Simple that is "Their Job" 8 hours a day.. These "Shills" are the real enemy of "FREE Energy" like TinselKoala, Milehigh, MarkE.. these are the biggest negative influence here !!

Acca..
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MileHigh said:

"I watched the whole clip.  The next step would be for someone independent to test the same setup.  The clip is too long and would require too much effort for me to check all the connections and scope settings, etc."

TinselKoala said:

"I see that in the video, Alek assumes that his load is completely resistive and produces no phase shift and that the rms values read from the meters can simply be directly multiplied to get the real output power. This is not true."


Milehigh said:

Supporting his troll brother:

"Dead on Mark like usual.  I am surprised that I actually watched a clip that long.  I have lost a lot of the vigor to get into it these days so your comments are welcome.  If you want to be cynical, this was just a rehearsed pitch to a willing audience so he pulled it off quite well.  I was too lazy to see how much difference the variance in the phase angle would cause to the number crunching."

MileHigh said:

"However, my instincts are still good.  Seeing that hunk of wire and ferrite you could just tell it was the same old story." 

Some one is pissed at the resident trolls !!

Steeltpu said:

"trolls seen squiming in their chairs and overheard saying: there is always some little detail we can find to turn a mole hill into a mountain.   if not we'll make something up that sounds believable."
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Silll.....

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"Shill" typically refers to someone who purposely gives onlookers the impression that they are an enthusiastic independent  of for whom they are secretly working. The person or group who hires the shill is using crowd psychology to encourage other onlookers or audience members to purchase the goods or services. Shills are often employed by interests. "Plant" and "stooge" more commonly refer to any person who is secretly in league with another person or organization while pretending to be neutral or actually a part of the organization he is planted in, like intelligence organization.
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