Overunity electrolysis - 31 times more effective gas production than with DC

[MarkE]

Bob with all due respect the implosion is very simple:  1 mole of gas at STP occupies ~22.4 liters.  2 moles of H2, and 1 mole of O2, weighing ~18 grams occupy ~67.2 liters.  When they combust to form 18 grams of liquid water: The water occupies ~18ml.  ~67.18 liters of gas has been removed from the working volume.  The local pressure drops and surrounding gas rushes in to fill the void re-equalizing the pressure.

The 2005 Japanese paper proposed that pulses if they are fast enough would avoid losses due to overcoming a double barrier that forms on the order of microseconds.

[ltseung888]

 The basic Physics of the lead-out or bring-in energy machine is in the attached slide.

If energy can be brought-in from outside the system and made to do work, there is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.

The question then becomes:
1.    Is there such a thing as IMPLOSION as in the case of Browns Gas?
2.    Can the IMPLOSION be made to do work?
3.    The total energy used to do work will be the sum of the energy to start or maintain the implosion PLUS the energy coming in from OUTSIDE as a result of the implosion.  When there is external energy added from OUTSIDE, overunity is guaranteed!

We do not need to worry about the exact mechanism of the IMPLOSION at this theoretical stage.  All we need to ask is whether the three above points are TRUE.  From the experimental evidence so far, the three above points are TRUE.  Thus research in this area is very worthwhile.[/font]

[ltseung888]

Bob with all due respect the implosion is very simple:  1 mole of gas at STP occupies ~22.4 liters.  2 moles of H2, and 1 mole of O2, weighing ~18 grams occupy ~67.2 liters.  When they combust to form 18 grams of liquid water: The water occupies ~18ml.  ~67.18 liters of gas has been removed from the working volume.  The local pressure drops and surrounding gas rushes in to fill the void re-equalizing the pressure.

Work can be done by the surrounding gas rushing in to fill the void.  This is EXTERNAL energy supplied by the environment or Lead-Out Energy in my terms.  (Some asked me to use the term Bring-in.  They are the same thing.)

In any Lead-Out Energy System, if we can Bring-in FREE environmental energy to do work for us, we burn less fuel or use less electricity.  If part of the "work" can be fed back, we can keep the system going with such environmental energy.  The Lead-Out Energy System is NOT a perpetual motion machine as it will NOT violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.  However, it can continue to run forever with the environmental energy.  In this case, the surrounding gas rushing in to fill the void will get colder.  In Physics, we can treat this as a case of using the kinetic energy of the air molecules.

Instead of Global Warming, we get Global Cooling.

Divine Revealation?

Hydrogen and oxygen (in the form of atoms, ions, molecules or what-so-ever) collide and turn into water in liquid form immediately.  This happens if the proportions and conditions are right.  If not, (or in the presence of impurities) EXPLOSION will occur.  It is a dangerous experiment...

[MarkE]

The basic Physics of the lead-out or bring-in energy machine is in the attached slide.

If energy can be brought-in from outside the system and made to do work, there is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.

The question then becomes:
1.    Is there such a thing as IMPLOSION as in the case of Browns Gas?
2.    Can the IMPLOSION be made to do work?
3.    The total energy used to do work will be the sum of the energy to start or maintain the implosion PLUS the energy coming in from OUTSIDE as a result of the implosion.  When there is external energy added from OUTSIDE, overunity is guaranteed!

We do not need to worry about the exact mechanism of the IMPLOSION at this theoretical stage.  All we need to ask is whether the three above points are TRUE.  From the experimental evidence so far, the three above points are TRUE.  Thus research in this area is very worthwhile.[/font]

Bad accounting does not create exploitable energy.  It just makes for funny written sums.

[ARMCORTEX]

The Brother of Stan Meyers ( Stephen ) admitted in an interview that Stan didnt know what was happening.

To this day, not a single witness has popped up to confirm the achievements of Stan, nor did anybody replicate his work.

The company xogen is the only company who was making an actual product, they seem to have dissapeared.

Regarding Stan, It is my belief that he was milking money as he was still in research phase.

His brother said in a radio interview that he further researched this, and that his sytem was more refined, his sytem is described in his patent, wich was rejected.

His system revolved around dual 3 phase generator, with phase cancelling interference antennas, and somekind of ringing network.

There was also a switch of polarity, by relay.

6 sets of tubes, these sets were composed of 3 tubes each.

The frequency was in the 400 hz range, I originally thought that for experimental work, an electronic emulation of 3 phase would be more suitable.

So I built the circuit above. What advantage does this hold over simple pulsing, this answer is deep within the research mind of Stephen Meyers.

Having worked all his life in radar, having invented all his life, Stephen Meyers is certainly one of the most knowledgeable figures on the planet.

If one of you thinks he has the engineering skill to pull it off, circuit is there. I doubt even doctor of EE can do this, difficulty level is AAA, multi-domain.

Edit: it seems like xogen is going strong, they re-appeared now.