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Overunity electrolysis - 31 times more effective gas production than with DC

Started by hartiberlin, July 30, 2014, 08:22:30 AM

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Bob Smith

Quote from: MarkE on August 11, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
Bob with all due respect the implosion is very simple:  1 mole of gas at STP occupies ~22.4 liters.  2 moles of H2, and 1 mole of O2, weighing ~18 grams occupy ~67.2 liters.  When they combust to form 18 grams of liquid water: The water occupies ~18ml.  ~67.18 liters of gas has been removed from the working volume.  The local pressure drops and surrounding gas rushes in to fill the void re-equalizing the pressure.

The 2005 Japanese paper proposed that pulses if they are fast enough would avoid losses due to overcoming a double barrier that forms on the order of microseconds.
Mark,
I do understand the logic of your approach. I'm looking at this through the lens of a different paradigm. Time will tell...
Bob

MarkE


MarkE

Quote from: ARMCORTEX on August 11, 2014, 09:19:42 PM
The thing that strikes me the most about Stephen`s patent is first of all, why he chose 6 cells, why he chose such complex signals.

This is structure buiding IMHO. His only clue in his interview, was, why is snow white, and some unrelated mention of radiation, cell radiates.

But from other prior designs not necessary.

What I think is necessary, as Ltseung says, is kinetic energy. In patent application of Stephen there is mention of mechanical vibration of the cell itself.
Data ultimately resolves uncertainty.  There have been many ideas proposed along the lines of splitting water and getting OU.  Despite many claims, none so far have been shown to work. I suggest that means that none of the techniques hold up.  Either a different technique is needed or there is no way to get there.

Paul-R


ARMCORTEX

Go ahead, try my drive(s) on water. Whatever floats your boat. It would be great if you succeed. Do you wanna pulse by dc or by ac, single phase or 3 phase.

Donut with that ?

The pulser, is an electronic traffic switch of sort, a gated signal from an independent oscillator will in high likelyhood overlap and either cut short or prolonge a gate, an offbeat. This will prevent that in any situation, even on the first pulse, it is very robust.

My 3 phase signal and amplifier, well, you are quite lucky to even witness this. I disclosed my circuit in a manner that is hidden, half hearted divulgation.

So this circuit right there, is quite a devotion, very large. But it works. Its 100% useless for anything other than Stephen Meyers or something that requires 3 phase emulation in 25 khz range.

Its far too large to be of any commercial value, this could all be replaced by a single chip, or 2. It was a doable way, it is atomic and not software so quite fast and robust, snappy.

I would love to collaborate with somebody who has a 18 tube cell arrangement in hexagonal fashion as per Stephen patent, I believe I have an pcb for this circuit

Some sine wave shaping, back in the day I used only old school logic gates, and switch cpacitor filter is a chip that allows for sine wave generation. Then the glitch is filtered.

My amplifier, Efficiency is 50%, but this is just for experimental, flexible, nice waveform, capable of driving capricious and bizarre loads.

There is a complication in the circuitry, as the 7474hc chip needs inversion. the 74cmos doesnt.

You need, +- 22 volts dual rail power supply (control ), and battery or high power smps as main driver. Its a question of ruggedness and quality that I chose dual rail.

Transformer is middle tap, differential transformer. Equal and opposite dc dont effect transformer, so this technique has many advantage, over A/B, , or single ended. Transformer will not saturate.

Yes, there is always wasted DC (heat is still useful), bur that is price to pay for linearisation of mosfet, we are always in conduction mode, signal integrity is goal.