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Reverse SMOT on a steel track!!!

Started by vineet_kiran, August 07, 2014, 07:19:53 AM

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vineet_kiran

 
Perpetual SMOT using a steel track

MarkE

No this latest unworkable idea of yours doesn't work for reasons similar to why none of Howard Johnson's devices could cycle, and why a SMOT doesn't cycle.  The system has a potential energy minimum from the combination of the two fields: gravity and magnetic, and the system has losses.  The system will seek the combined potential energy minum, incurring losses as it does and therefore require the addition of external energy to return to any given starting point.

vineet_kiran

Quote from: MarkE on August 07, 2014, 03:26:34 PM
The system will seek the combined potential energy minum, incurring losses as it does and therefore require the addition of external energy to return to any given starting point.

Why an electron spins continuously round the nucleus?

As per classical theory, when a mass is heated, electrons in lower orbits jump to higher orbit absorbing heat energy and again jump back to their original orbits releasing photons.

What makes electrons to jump back to their original orbit, gain the revolution speed which can balance nuclear attraction by centrifugal force and spin again round the nucleus?  Instead, they can simply jump into the nucleus and get their charges neutralised thus ceasing the existance of matter?

MarkE

Quote from: vineet_kiran on August 07, 2014, 09:33:00 PM

Why an electron spins continuously round the nucleus?
Because no energy is transferred in the process.
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As per classical theory, when a mass is heated, electrons in lower orbits jump to higher orbit absorbing heat energy and again jump back to their original orbits releasing photons.
Classical theory falls rather short describing atomic particles.  Quantum theory does a much better job.
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What makes electrons to jump back to their original orbit, gain the revolution speed which can balance nuclear attraction by centrifugal force and spin again round the nucleus?  Instead, they can simply jump into the nucleus and get their charges neutralised thus ceasing the existance of matter?
Quantum theory  does not describe electrons whizzing about in orbits as per the Bohr model.  As far as we know: electrons don't just casually jump or fall into nuclei turning protons into neutrons.  When electrons and protons do combine, current theory holds that energy/matter is preserved.  Where are you getting your funny ideas?

vineet_kiran

Quote from: MarkE on August 07, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
Because no energy is transferred in the process.Classical theory falls rather short describing atomic particles.  Quantum theory does a much better job.Quantum theory  does not describe electrons whizzing about in orbits as per the Bohr model.  As far as we know: electrons don't just casually jump or fall into nuclei turning protons into neutrons.  When electrons and protons do combine, current theory holds that energy/matter is preserved.  Where are you getting your funny ideas?


Neither classical theory (Bohr's model) nor quantum mechanics explain things completely.  An electron is a charged particle.  A moving charged particle should continuously emit energy and finally fall into the nucleus after loosing its energy.  But this doesnot happen in reality.  Hence all explanations are made as postulates because there is no correct explanation for it .

Electrons donot fall into the nucleus because flux density on the orbit is more than the flux density on the nucleus itself.  This happens because fluxes produced by surrouding nuclii repel one another and create a track of stronger flux than the flux density on nucleus for the movement of electrons. This is the reason why matter exists as molecules and not as single atoms.

A charged particle always moves towards the region of stronger flux density of opposite cahrge. This doesnot need any explanation because it is just a matter of common sense.

Same principle I have used in this experiment. When  you bring a magnet near a relatively thin steel rod,  flux density induced in the rod is stronger than the density of flux on the surface of magnet itslef.  Hence steel ball kept on the track doesnot jump towards magnet.

By suitably arranging the steel track and magnet, you can get a difference between gravitational potential energy and magnetic potential to make the ball move on track perpetually.

The only reason which may prevent ball from moving perpetuall is magnetization.  If ball gets magnetized after a long time due to continuous exposure to magnetic pole, it may stop moving.

I don't agree with any of your stupid explanations which assumes energy as constant. Without creating energy this universe cannot exist. If energy is conserved,  all moving matters, particles will lose their energy someday and the universe ceases to exist.  But this has not happenned in ages.  Do you know the age of this universe?