Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[Pirate88179]

If we drop a pebble into a bucket of water,do not the ripples form from the center and roll out toward the rim of the bucket,only to be deflected from the bucket and meet back in the middle?.

Tinman, the above example concerns both divergent and convergent waves.  Are you positing that magnetic waves might have both of these properties?

I am just asking as I do not know the answer.  I was just going with your bucket example above.

Thanks,

Bill

[Cap-Z-ro]

I have just responded to an email notification that the forum's designated arse kisser - the butt pirate - had posted...but his post is nowhere to be seen on my end.

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I am going to make a list of theories to account for the missing/invisible post of the forum's designated arse kisser.

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1.  Intervention by ADM Stefan (possibly a request by the forum's designated arse kisser to make it so I couldn't read his dull colorless mutterings anymore.

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4.  The forum's designated arse kisser has now really put me on ignore...after lying about doing so earlier on.

5.  Only he is able to see his posts...possibly divine intervention.

Regards...

[MileHigh]

How about we all just stop cold and let Mark and Tinman have their discussion about magnetism?  At this point we are just spamming this thread called "Magnet Myths and Misconceptions" with nonsense.

[MarkE]

If we drop a pebble into a bucket of water,do not the ripples form from the center and roll out toward the rim of the bucket,only to be deflected from the bucket and meet back in the middle?.

The problem with that analogy is that the water displaces from the middle in all directions.  The differential is between the point where the pebble strikes and everywhere else.  Here, you are showing that north and south form from nowhere, go away from each other when they are supposed to attract and come back to each other.  What is the basis for the singularity where they supposedly form and why do they go away from each other when they supposedly attract?

Did i not say some time back that by adding small PM's together the field strength grow"s?

So is that a yes on linear superposition?

We need to get away from electromagnets for the time being,as we wish to find a way to gather an electrical power from the two opposite charges within a PM. The electromagnet also has an electric field to contend with-dose a PM?.

Are you contending that the "magnetic wind" of an electromagnet is fundamentally different in its behavior than the "magnetic wind" of a permanent magnet?

Im not even remotely interested in electromagnets,as they consume power to carry out the same job to that of a PM that dose not consume any power. My work is based around a PM-not an electromagnet,and i get the feeling Mark that you are trying to turn left here,when im trying to go straight ahead.

That is not true with superconducting magnets.  They go on and on and on all by themselves.  I am trying to get clarity on your ideas so that we can get to a point where we have a testable hypothesis that we can run experiments against.

If we are to look at the static charge in the comb,are we to assume that the comb has a charge of only one potential?-is this the monopole equivalent?. Or is it the equivalent to that of a capacitor,where the two charges are sepperated by a dielectric(the air) and the paper is the opposite or neutral charge to that of the comb.

The comb, the air, and the paper are all dielectrics.  They are all capable of greatly resisting the flow of charge. 

[Pirate88179]

How about we all just stop cold and let Mark and Tinman have their discussion about magnetism?  At this point we are just spamming this thread called "Magnet Myths and Misconceptions" with nonsense.

MH:

Do you think it is possible that magnetic waves can be both divergent and convergent?  This is what caught my interest from Tinman's post.  What I mean is, that if there are really magnetic waves...why could they not perform like Tinman's bucket example?

I get what you mean by your post and, yes, it is getting very interesting now so I suppose I will just shut up and watch.

Bill