Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[NoBull]

Oh, by the way-who said electrons are the only charge carriers.

Nobody

[ramset]

TinMan
yes perhaps there are other options... or methods to manifest useful Charge ,seems perhaps our planet with its spinning and "standing" components may hold some surprises or clues.
a Stone from Sweden rings a bell, and a friend of OURS Bill Barbat has some thoughts on this [and Patents] too, Oxide coatings and Graphene
here are some basic raw materials [from Johan ]

http://www.galleries.com/minerals/property/electric.htm

Erfinder
do not go Too far out the exit, keep an ear to the ground

  we have never been this way before, The common mans ability to "search and discover"
has never had such a resource, EVER....
and we have Never been able to see the things which we can see now at the Nano level
and OLD fellows like William Barbat are exploring and not listening to the Din from the gallery.

here we have many eyes to behold and assist in that journey off the path, I suspect even
the fellows that "attempt" to keep it clean will eventually have to yield to the flow.

have a good day.
Chet

[MarkE]

Abuse of authority is abuse of authority.  Those who present "ideas" which have no "scientifically accepted" basis are shot on the spot.

People who promote concepts that have been shown to be wrong over and over again get informed of the fact.  What is the problem with that? 

Guilty until they memorize and quote the law or laws whose existence they denied.  This public admission of guilt must be done before a jury of their peers, individuals who have been groomed through direct or indirect association with these authorities.  It's unfortunate that creativity is only accepted when the creative individual is walking the line, has demonstrated his/her abilities as a maverick in known and accepted territory.

Ignorance is just ignorance.  Creativity is putting things together in unusual ways.  If those things are supposed to be entirely imaginary and fantastical, then great: that's the work of many artists.  If those things are supposed to function somehow in the real world, their chances of succeeding are a whole lot better if they are not premised on things that have been shown to be wrong many times.

Let them do what they want.  What harm could come of it?  You may say that you let them do what they want, that they will do what they want anyway, but then when you look back at the debates you see what I see....the idea being presented was completely overturned, and the presenter burned alive.

No one can stop someone else from pursuing what they want.  If the pursuit consists of trying to convince people that up means blue then there should be no surprise that others challenge such odd ideas.

Their case was never heard, was never going to be heard, it would have been kinder to say to the individual, "Get, your kind ain't welcome here".

Except that is not true.  There are lots of people here who have pursued one idea or another that is highly improbable where they did not claim the idea was right they just wanted some technical help, and that technical help has been offered.  It is where someone makes claims without evidence, or with already highly refuting evidence that they find themselves in arguments they struggle with.  Why?  Because they don't have evidence.

What has to be done is obvious but the majority don't want to do it.  It's clear that if you want to be creative, really creative and free from the bonds, you can't do it here.  There's no room for that kind of thing here.  So why do folks stick around presenting their case, exposing their cheeks to the lash?  Peer review is a funny thing, a touchy subject, the majority enter this place assuming that they are in the company of like minded individuals, sadly they are mistaken, places like this is where you bring your idea to be consumed by the flame.[/qutoe]What do you mean by "like minded"?  Do you mean curious?  Then there is lots of information offered here to the curious.  Do you mean people who want to experiment?  Again there is lots of help that people get here.  But if you mean want to pretend that the world behaves entirely differently than we have strong reason to believe for little more reason than they would like it to be that way, and there are plenty of people here who try with various degrees of patience and gentleness to point out what a lot of very creative, very smart and very dedicated people have spent countless hours amassing as pretty damned reliable knowledge.

A burnt offering to who knows what, the poor creative individual sits there from the other side of the screen he/she watches the law as if it were fire, consume their hopes and dreams, converting them into smoke and ash.

No amount of hope is going to make an imaginary security box in Amsterdam real.

The act deadens the senses, and if practiced often enough, leads to an almost total disconnection from ones own creative capacity. 

If the moon were made of bleu cheese and mining operation was setup on the moon, and that mining operation was accompanied by a processing plant, if one were to eat at joes, a joint just outside of the processing plant within the artificial atmosphere, tainted with the duft of processed bleu, and assuming good ole bleu is your love.....yeah I am pretty sure that bleu cheese burger would be mighty fine....probably the solar system.....

And that's a fine speculation to offer, pitched as it is on a wild premise, but not a premise that is asserted as true.

Funny how this kind of thing is allowed, but playful discussions on subjects that mean things to those reading aren't.  Magnet Myths and Misconceptions is the subject, and I am guilty of going off topic.  I am now proceeding to the EXIT.

One might hope that the point of a topic like this is to reduce misconceptions, not invent new ones.  Interpretations vary.

Regards

[ramset]

Mark E
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No amount of hope is going to make an imaginary security box in Amsterdam real.
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please elaborate  ?


thx
Chet

[MarkE]

Mark E
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No amount of hope is going to make an imaginary security box in Amsterdam real.
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please elaborate  ?


thx
Chet

Nature doesn't give a hoot as to what anyone hopes.