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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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picowatt

Quote from: tinman on January 19, 2015, 09:02:45 PM
And believing that man knows natures every motion is a misconception..
To believe that the charge itself is what creates the magnetic field is an incorrect assumption. It is the charge carriers motion that determonds the magnetic field around a conductive path-not the charge itself .if there were no charge carriers, there would be no charge.

I wonder just how many here have done the compass, current through a wire test with other materials other than metalic conductors.

Have you ever done so with surprising results?

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I wonder why back in the days of old, the radio in my prized muscle car stop picking up ignition noise when I swaped out the old wire sparkplug leads for high performance silicon leads.

http://www.auroraelectronics.com/Understanding%20Spark%20Plug%20Wires.htm

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I wonder why my clamp on current meter will read AC current going through a copper power cable, but wont read didley sqat if I try to read the same AC current through a carbon fibre power lead.

Did the carbon have the same AC current flowing? (at least based on resistance/applied voltage calculations)?

If so, was it a carbon mono-filament?  If not, it may have been acting as individual twisted strands.

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I wonder if ions carry current in the same manner as electrons do?-I wonder if the motion between the two is the same when carrying a current?.

Ions can carry current.  A beam of protons is deflected in a direction opposite to that of a beam of electrons, so I suspect that a flow of positive ions would produce a magnetic field opposite to that of electrons flowing in the same direction.

Possibly MarkE can provide a better answer...

PW

tinman




Ions can carry current.  A beam of protons is deflected in a direction opposite to that of a beam of electrons, so I suspect that a flow of positive ions would produce a magnetic field opposite to that of electrons flowing in the same direction.

Possibly MarkE can provide a better answer...

PW
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Jackpot PW

picowatt

Quote from: tinman on January 19, 2015, 10:02:27 PM


Ions can carry current.  A beam of protons is deflected in a direction opposite to that of a beam of electrons, so I suspect that a flow of positive ions would produce a magnetic field opposite to that of electrons flowing in the same direction.

Possibly MarkE can provide a better answer...

PW

Jackpot PW

Jackpot?

Care to explain that a bit?

PW

picowatt

Quote from: tinman on January 19, 2015, 05:13:00 AM
I never specified a wire Mark
There are other materials that conduct/carry current.

Tinman,

Using the word "carry" could be interpreted to mean "transport".

There are lots of ways to transport charges without creating a magnetic field during "transport".

But I consider that quite different than to "conduct".

PW

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 19, 2015, 09:02:45 PM
And believing that man knows natures every motion is a misconception..
Outside of some religion where is such a claim made?
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To believe that the charge itself is what creates the magnetic field is an incorrect assumption.
Moving charge and magnetic fields are to this day inseparable behaviors.
QuoteIt is the charge carriers motion that determonds the magnetic field around a conductive path-not the charge itself .if there were no charge carriers, there would be no charge.
Have you ever seen a LASER?  Where are the charge carriers in the LASER beam?
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I wonder just how many here have done the compass, current through a wire test with other materials other than metalic conductors.
Why would that matter?
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I wonder why back in the days of old, the radio in my prized muscle car stop picking up ignition noise when I swaped out the old wire sparkplug leads for high performance silicon leads.
I am guessing it may well not be the reason that you think.
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I wonder why my clamp on current meter will read AC current going through a copper power cable, but wont read didley sqat if I try to read the same AC current through a carbon fibre power lead.
That's funny, because mine doesn't care.
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I wonder if ions carry current in the same manner as electrons do?-I wonder if the motion between the two is the same when carrying a current?.
Well, that all depends on your definition of "same manner" is.  From an electromagnetic standpoint, it's the motion of charge that matters.  Think about the LASER question.