Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[MarkE]

Ions can carry current.  A beam of protons is deflected in a direction opposite to that of a beam of electrons, so I suspect that a flow of positive ions would produce a magnetic field opposite to that of electrons flowing in the same direction.

Possibly MarkE can provide a better answer...

PW

Jackpot PW

Magnetically, moving charge is moving charge.

[picowatt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_conductor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_ion_conductor

[tinman]

If that would happen around a single conductor then it would be a revolution in physics.

No,the physics already explains how it can be done through chemistry.

We dont have an energy crisis-we have a scientific crisis.

[MarkE]

No,the physics already explains how it can be done through chemistry.

We dont have an energy crisis-we have a scientific crisis.

Really?  Do you think you have an example of a net charge flux versus time without a magnetic field surrounding that charge flux?

[tinman]

Tinman:




MileHigh

What is the basis for you posing that question?  Any wire that has current flowing through it will have a magnetic field around it.  In fact there is even a magnetic field inside the wire.  That leads into a related question.  What is the simplest inductor?  The answer is a short length of straight wire.

I never said a wire,i said a conductor. You do know there are other materials that can conduct/carry current other than wire-dont you.

It makes me think of when people post things like, "I tested my coils with copper magnet wire and now I am going to test them with iron wire."  The participants in the thread will wait for the results of the test.  If you ignore the slightly different resistances of the two wires, then there is no possible difference between a coil made with copper wire and coil made with iron wire.

This is totally incorrect,and i know this for fact. This is the difference between those that read books,and those that actually test this very situation with actual devices. Here is a result of this very situation between iron wire and copper wire. Two identical air core coils wound,one with soft iron tie wire(plastic coated),and one with copper wire. Both wires have exact same OD,and same number of turns. Now which do you suppose created the strongest magnetic field when supplied with the same amount of power?-and im talking180%+ stronger.

It's the same frustration that I couldn't really give a rat's ass about any more.  What does it take to become a master machinist?  Perhaps three or four years of school and then three or four years of apprenticeship?  Do you think a Jow Blow off the street can just watch a few YouTube clips and then start working in a factory machining aircraft engine parts?  Why in God's name do people think they can buy a scope and a multimeter and then research free energy machines?  You saw Chris fall flat on his face because he couldn't solve a circuit that consisted of one lousy component.  Now he has his own thread to teach people how to build allegedly over unity transformers.

Might i remind you that this lousy truck driver had to correct you on your thinking that 1 coil would have more pull force for the same amount of P/in than two coils(one each side of the magnet)would. This was a no brainer,and you got it wrong.
Even the best slip up some times MH,so give the less experianced a little breathing room.

This is where bench time come into play MH.
Dont discredit those that could one day teach you something.