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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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MileHigh


Dave45

We need to understand where we are trying to get energy from.

What is the geometric configuration of a field line.

What are eddy currents and how do they react to the field line.

MileHigh

Tinman:

Good on you for stating the obvious:  There is no Bloch Wall at the center of a magnet.

You stated that there is no magnetic field alongside the center of a long bar magnet.  MarkE showed you how you can do a compass test to confirm that there is a magnetic field there.  I think the mistake that you are making is that you will not feel any attraction at the center of a long bar magnet if you place a piece of ferrite or metal in that place.  You can have situations where there is no attraction felt and there still is a magnetic field present.  It's because the magnetic field is parallel to the magnet and there is no net pull towards either pole on the ferrite or piece of metal.  It's the same thing for the iron filings.  The majority of the iron filings are not attracted to either pole of the magnet.  The majority of the iron filings experience what looks like a linear magnetic field.  They line up with the magnetic field to "fall" into their position of minimum magnetic potential energy but they are not pulled towards either pole.

Here are two clips about deriving the magnetic field for a solenoid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c6fRmyh4q8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBXVuHpUucc

MileHigh

MileHigh

Chris:

I guess that you have left this thread.  I just wanted to comment again how sad it is that you can only draw parallels to other situations to supposedly back up your claim that there is a Bloch wall at the center of a bar magnet.  It even started to get loopy when you showed pictures of ferrofluid in action as "proof" of the existence of a Bloch wall.

You really did not advance your case at all.  What you tried to show was not scientific at all, and yet you claimed that you were the one being scientific.

You have built up walls around yourself with respect to this Bloch Wall nonsense.  I asked you repeatedly to explain what was going on in the magnet itself and you failed to do that.

This reminds me of cases where someone's understanding of a coil has been corrupted by the Bedini gang.  You try to explain to them what is going on when the coil discharges and they just put their blinders on and cover their ears and say, "radiant energy."  Or they say things like the pulse is "just voltage and no current" when in fact by definition the pulse is a pulse of current.

Do what you want to do, but at this point it's almost like you are a poster boy for how to go about doing things the wrong way.  You have been corrupted by non-scientific cheap pulp pseudoscience and that's most unfortunate.

The longer you keep playing with circuits, the more you start to see how things fit less and less into your electronics pseudoscience world.  Hopefully one day that will hit critical mass and you will realize the error of your ways.

MileHigh