Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[EMJunkie]

Clearly he does NOT know, or believe, that SMOTs don't work! Just look at what he's posted! 

Go ahead, EMJunkie. Please go to work and make a self-looping SMOT! I don't think you should post anything else until you get one working, running by itself. After all, your posted .pdf says "can this be looped? Yes!" and you claim that the video shows a "working" SMOT! So go to it! Put those wonderful critical thinking and building skills to work and PROVE ME WRONG. Make a self-looped SMOT! Simple, right? I laugh at you!
You cannot do it!

And how about a hydraulic ram pump? Make one that pumps water back up into its reservoir and just keeps on pumping the same water around and around, without you helping it by supplying _excess water_ from an upper reservoir. Hundreds and hundreds of years! Go ahead, make one that works in a closed loop!
You cannot!

And it is clear that you are unaware of the _real_ scientific discussion that has happened concerning the DWFTTW efforts. Some people didn't believe it at first glance, that is true. It is also true that many of those openminded disbelievers carried out a rational discussion, built models and finally convinced themselves that it was possible, before the definitive demonstrations that we have all seen on YT. This issue is +unrelated+, except in your mind.

Why don't you drag out the old canard about the Wright Brothers, next, where you claim that they did what "every scientist" believed was impossible, while you ignore the fact that they had examples from nature, examples from models, man-carrying kites, soaring gliders, the work of other people, and years of their own _scientific_ research to build upon before they flew their first _powered_ airplane.

You're a real hoot EMJunkie. Produce a self-looped SMOT to back up your silly claims, or everyone will know that you are just another blowhard false claimant like so many we have seen here, claiming something that is not true.  YOU CANNOT !!  You've really stuck your foot in your mouth now, with your support of SMOT claims. Get to work! SIMPLE magnetic overunity toy. Howard Johnson! Your pdf! The video you linked! Where is your PROOF of OU, your self looped SMOT? You cannot do it!!!
Yes... if you supply power from the outside! By Mister Hand!

You get a ROFL for that one!

TinselKoala - Youre a FOOL! Blind and Intellectually Handicaped! Oil Company Troll!

[EMJunkie]

Clearly he does NOT know, or believe, that SMOTs don't work! Just look at what he's posted! 

Go ahead, EMJunkie. Please go to work and make a self-looping SMOT! I don't think you should post anything else until you get one working, running by itself. After all, your posted .pdf says "can this be looped? Yes!" and you claim that the video shows a "working" SMOT! So go to it! Put those wonderful critical thinking and building skills to work and PROVE ME WRONG. Make a self-looped SMOT! Simple, right? I laugh at you!
You cannot do it!

And how about a hydraulic ram pump? Make one that pumps water back up into its reservoir and just keeps on pumping the same water around and around, without you helping it by supplying _excess water_ from an upper reservoir. Hundreds and hundreds of years! Go ahead, make one that works in a closed loop!
You cannot!

And it is clear that you are unaware of the _real_ scientific discussion that has happened concerning the DWFTTW efforts. Some people didn't believe it at first glance, that is true. It is also true that many of those openminded disbelievers carried out a rational discussion, built models and finally convinced themselves that it was possible, before the definitive demonstrations that we have all seen on YT. This issue is +unrelated+, except in your mind.

Why don't you drag out the old canard about the Wright Brothers, next, where you claim that they did what "every scientist" believed was impossible, while you ignore the fact that they had examples from nature, examples from models, man-carrying kites, soaring gliders, the work of other people, and years of their own _scientific_ research to build upon before they flew their first _powered_ airplane.

You're a real hoot EMJunkie. Produce a self-looped SMOT to back up your silly claims, or everyone will know that you are just another blowhard false claimant like so many we have seen here, claiming something that is not true.  YOU CANNOT !!  You've really stuck your foot in your mouth now, with your support of SMOT claims. Get to work! SIMPLE magnetic overunity toy. Howard Johnson! Your pdf! The video you linked! Where is your PROOF of OU, your self looped SMOT? You cannot do it!!!
Yes... if you supply power from the outside! By Mister Hand!

You get a ROFL for that one!

Does one PAY for the Water running down the stream? No Fool!
Does one PAY for the Flux that extrudes from the Pole of a Permanent Magnet? No Fool!
Does one PAY for the Wind to keep the Wind Turbine going? No Fool!
Does one PAY for the Gravitational Forces that hold your feet on the Earths Surface? No Fool!

See what I mean - Intellectually Handicapped!

Blind and Ignorant you stupid Oil Company Fool!

[MarkE]

There's the money shot right there AC-well done.

They had a good handle on there laws-->until the back yard boys blew them out of the water. But as always,it was just an oversite--it's all fixed now

You can call aeronautical SME's "back yard boys" if you like.  In any event, they knew their subject matter backwards and forwards.  They: came up with the concept, proved it on paper (simulations), and then went and built a working proof of concept.  Analysis, simulation, and experiment all correlated.  A lot of smart people were deceived by their own intuition.  That happens.  That's why reliable data always tells the real story.

[MarkE]

@Mark
DWFTTWI would agree and that was my point,  hovever we should be perfectly clear that almost all the experts claimed the Down Wind Faster than the Wind technology must violate the laws of physics and be a perpetual motion machine... Period... no futher debate required.

You must have seen different debates than I did.  The debates I saw, many engineers and scientists said that the land yacht would lose all further thrust once its air speed reached zero.  I don't recall anyone calling it perpetual motion.

They used the laws to justify their misguided opinions simply because they didn't understand what was happening, that is what I'm talking about.

They misanalyzed the device.  Those who behaved badly got a big serving of well deserved crow.

Let's not sugar coat this because they made themselves look absolutely stupid and it is still archived all over the net for all to see.

With respect to those who behaved badly I agree they hurt their own reputations.  Those who got it wrong but behaved honorably can shrug off the fact that they are human and everyone makes mistakes.

If they actually had any real integrity they would have given the proper response which is -- "I do not know we will have to wait for more facts" --because those are the facts but saying it must violate the laws of physics is obviously a lie.

Those who stated "It would violate the laws of physics"were genuine in their opinions and did have a logical albeit incorrect basis in fact for those beliefs.  The people behind the claim did what anyone who makes an extraordinary (or in this case only seemingly extraordinary) claim need to do:  They gathered irrefutable evidence that backed their correct DWFTTW claim.

AC

[EMJunkie]

And how about a hydraulic ram pump? Make one that pumps water back up into its reservoir and just keeps on pumping the same water around and around, without you helping it by supplying _excess water_ from an upper reservoir. Hundreds and hundreds of years! Go ahead, make one that works in a closed loop!
You cannot!

TinselKoala - This is the most FOOLISH Stupid, IDIOT sentence I have ever read in my entire life!

Clearly your Intellectual Handicap does not allow you to use Comprehensive Fundamental Rational reason to advance anyone or anything!

Youre a defeatist! In your heart you believe that nothing can be done!

I was 14 years old when I built my first Ram Pump, and Yes it worked. As do All Ram Pumps once constructed correctly!

The most simple thing in the world, 2 moving parts and it defeats your pathetic inability too see past your very own Ignorance!

Wow you are now the most silly person on ou.com! I am totally gob smacked at your stupidity!