Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[EMJunkie]

Kindly look at your supplied data.  Look carefully.  See what those pretty light patterns really mean.  If your hypothesis is as in the graphic you posted a couple of posts back, that the field of a dipole magnet really goes from one end to the center instead of all the way around the magnet, then there are plenty of experiments that could be performed to demonstrate such behavior by simply using a long dipole.  The problem is that is not what happens when we investigate long dipoles.Data:  Reliable data tells all.  Your data does not actually support your conclusions.  I don't see value hurling insults at you for your mistake.  I see value in encouraging you to look at your data and understand what it really means.I am sorry but Bill Alek has utterly and totally failed to support his extraordinary propositions.  If a day should come that he can actually support his claims with reliable data, then I will think better of his claims.It is good that you abhor ignorance.  Don't succumb to it because doing so lets you believe what you would like as opposed to finding out what is true.  That cuts all ways.

MarkE,

So you're saying Howard Johnson's work is fake and Hall Probes don't work?

Please give me a break! Blind Following the Blind I have seen but this is amazing! A whole new level!

Wow, good luck, I know you are really going to need it! How many hours have you spent on OU.com and what have you learned? Learned nothing?

You people are Doomed!

With regrets and a saddened disrespect for Ignorance

Chris Sykes

[MileHigh]

Ah i see,you did a typo.
Quote your post:-before i enter the south end--When i emerge from the south end.
Im guessing that should have been-when i emerge from the north end.
I did highlite it in red in my reply.

Thanks Brad, I corrected my text.  When I try to proofread my own text within 20 minutes of composing it it is very difficult to do because my brain is one step ahead of what I (think) I am reading.

[linoavac]

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[MileHigh]

I will bring it back to that bloody green magnetic viewing film.  Chris is just one of many that is tricked up by it.   He believes that there is a Bloch wall in the center of a magnet, and then he sees a lighter green line on his viewing film just where he expects the Bloch wall should be, and he says, "Voila!  There is the Bloch wall!"

This is a very dangerous thing and a few postings back you see my graphic explaining what he is actually seeing with the magnetic viewing film.

Chris is not even asking himself precisely why the alleged Bloch wall should cause that effect on the viewing film.  Going further than that, he is not even asking himself what light areas and dark areas on the viewing film actually mean.

You trip yourself up enough and you can believe in some kind of "new explanation" or "new reality" for what is going on.  However, often these "new realities" often only work for one cherry-picked test and don't work for other tests.

For Chris, this phenomenon has extended to his transformer tests.  He claims one of his transformer tests is "slightly over unity" but all that I see is a strange funky and lossy transformer.  Proper measurements would confirm that the transformer setup is lossy.

[allcanadian]

@Mark E

Look carefully.  See what those pretty light patterns really mean.  If your
hypothesis is as in the graphic you posted a couple of posts back, that the
field of a dipole magnet really goes from one end to the center instead of all
the way around the magnet, then there are plenty of experiments that could be
performed to demonstrate such behavior by simply using a long dipole.  The
problem is that is not what happens when we investigate long dipoles.

I know I should just walk away from this one but it would seem to me the magnetic field is just another dipole field as shown below. As such the near field does not necessarily need to mirror the far field which becomes more and more spherical the further it reaches outward. If the magnetic field is a reflection of the electric field mathmatically then why wouldn't we see it as such conceptually?. I find it hard to believe we would model all our dipole fields in a similar manner and then say well no not this one the magnetic field is different, is it?.
I would also agree with milehigh's analogy of moving through a magnet and seeing a multitude of smaller parallel magnetic fields however a magnet is not an external magnetic field any more than an electric dipole is an external electric field.
AC