Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[MarkE]

MarkE - No Insults were passed, only FACTS with Supporting Evidence!

Again you provide nothing like a cogent argument! All your arguments are based on is incorrect evidence proven wrong by Modern Science!

Again, this is a pointless debate, providing proof is not enough for those that refute FACTS Backed up by yet more FACTS! Its pointless debating with you!

Some people HELD ONTO the FLAT EARTH THEORY for many years after it was proven wrong as well!!!

How many times do you need to see that the field alignment through a dipole magnet is all in the same direction before you concede the falsity of this "magnetic equator" idea that you promote?  Alternatively, kindly show a reliable experiment that demonstrates your claim that the field surrounding a dipole magnet loops from each pole through the dipole center instead of continguously from one pole to the other.

[MarkE]

   EMJunkie, obviously MarkE needs re-educating to modern scientific standards.
      There must be good education "out there" as indicated by the designers and
and technicians who build things like medical scanners and things like the LHC,
these devices must employ flawless magnetics.
    Where should we send him?
                  John.

Anywhere but Detroit!

[EMJunkie]

   EMJunkie, obviously MarkE needs re-educating to modern scientific standards.
      There must be good education "out there" as indicated by the designers and
and technicians who build things like medical scanners and things like the LHC,
these devices must employ flawless magnetics.
    Where should we send him?
                  John.

Hi John,

MarkE already has his mind made up, so does MileHigh and no doubt some others reading along - There is nothing wrong with this, except the fact is that they continue to PREACH Science which has been proven wrong for many years now.

They provide no Science to backup their claims, but claim an Imaginary Ride through a Magnet is proof, which can only be considered as delusional Insanity!

They are Nice guys in my opinion however, just stuck in their ways. My Granddad was a bit like this, Bless his soul!

Have a Great Day John ;O)

  Chris

[EMJunkie]

Not that it matters.

Back before the Internet,, yes there was a time when computers used modems that "talked" over the phone line,, anyway,, I played with the magnetic field a fair amount and one of the articles I got off of a BBS was on this Block wall thing and so I went looking.

I played in a friend of mines workshop, he fixed copiers for a living and let me play around in some unused space,, not to mention he let me have any and all parts I wanted of the copiers that were going to be junked.

With copier machines there is this stuff, or maybe was, called TONER, it is made up of very fine metallic spheres covered in carbon black and a plasticizer,, that is what gets fused to the paper in those old machines,, the carbon black and plasticizers that is,,

In the really old machines they also had fussor oil,, this was typically a silicone based oil and when it became contaminated with Toner it was thrown away.

So here I was playing around in the shop when one of my magnets went flying,, guess where it landed,, sure enough fero-fluid before there was any.

Another thing about toner,, being 0.5 microns in diameter and all,, is that it will fly around in the air for a long time,, but you can use a heat lamp to fuse them together and lock in a shape.  Did that for some 3-D magnetic field printing

After all that playing around I determined that a few things were not exactly correct,, the magnetic field has a sphere of influence,, this does not mean you are seeing the field per say but what it is doing,, small nit-pic but then when you do other stuff it helps to make more sense out of things.

I never found this Bloch Wall, I did find that a single slice of viewing stuff does not do a very good job of showing all of what is going on,, it provides for an idea of what is going on and that is about it.

Spheres behave similar to but not exactly the same as long'ish fillings,, close but not exact.

There is a region around the midpoint between poles where the two forces of attraction and the two forces of repulsion balance out and show no apparent force of attraction or repulsion when you are using something like a nail or a needle to "feel" this field interaction,, the force is not gone but self canceled in its ability to repel or attract the metal object aka do work on the object,,,, but the force is still there as it was.

Long story short,

is the discussion over the field or over the local area effect from the field?

Hi Webby1,

We are currently debating the science behind a permanent Magnets Equator, also known as the Bloch Wall.

MarkE, MileHigh and TinselKoala say there is No Equator between the Poles of a Permanent Magnet!

Virtually everyone else here is saying there is.

If one can:

1: See it!
2: Measure it!
3: Feel it!

It EXISTS! Period!

The Earth has an Equator because of the Magnetic Field, so a Magnet has an Equator because of its Magnetic Field! Todays Science does not refute this equator in-fact it is supported in several areas in Science. Previous Posts have provided this proof already.

All the best

  Chris

[MarkE]

Hi Webby1,

We are currently debating the science behind a permanent Magnets Equator, also known as the Bloch Wall.

No, we are debating your unevidenced claims that:  1) The field around a dipole magnet curls towards its center from each pole. 2) That a Bloch wall occurs at the center of a dipole magnet.

MarkE, MileHigh and TinselKoala say there is No Equator between the Poles of a Permanent Magnet!

What I argue, and the others do as well is that the field around a dipole magnet runs contiguously from pole to pole.  It exhibits minimum curl and maximum parallelism to the dipole long axis at the dipole long axis midpoint.  The demonstration photographs above demonstrate as much.

Virtually everyone else here is saying there is.

If one can:

1: See it!
2: Measure it!
3: Feel it!

It EXISTS! Period!

Then you must account for the demonstration photograph above that shows that we see the field is parallel adjacent to the dipole midpoint, we measure the strong curl near the poles, and very little curl near the dipole midpoint, and the compass pointer feels that field gradient as we move it around the dipole magnet.

The Earth has an Equator because of the Magnetic Field, so a Magnet has an Equator because of its Magnetic Field! Todays Science does not refute this equator in-fact it is supported in several areas in Science. Previous Posts have provided this proof already.

All the best

  Chris

You have so far failed to demonstrate these claims of yours that have been refuted by countless experiments and machines.