Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[tinman]

No, when one wishes to argue against established understanding it is up to the challenger to provide convincing evidence.

As human beings we do not have any absolute knowledge.  Philosphers get to argue about such matters while never attaining absolute knowledge anymore than anyone else.   We can absolutely predict with deadly accuracy: static electric, static magnetic, and electrodynamic behaviors to incredibly high accuracies.   That we are able to do so, very strongly suggests that we have a very strong grasp of how the elements interact.  If someone wants to make a dent in the set of beliefs that allow us to do this, then they need to find at least one situation where their new idea makes better predictions, while making equally accurate predictions as established beliefs in all other cases.  It is a very tall order.  So no, I reject the idea that one has to have a fundamental answer to the theory of everything in order to adhere to established scientific beliefs: IE physical laws.  To paraphrase Dr. Sheehan:  "Laws are laws until they aren't."  Come up with a case of where the laws fail.  Then come up with a better answer.

Well that didnt get us very far,so im guessing were sticking to theories ATM.

It is great that you believe we have a good grasp on whats going on with magnetic field's,so i will take the time to ask you another question.

Im sure you have seen some guys around here(including myself) make those induction water heater's-the one's with a looped coil of copper pipe filled with water,and in the center of this looped copper pipe is a rotor with PM's in it. They spin the rotor up,eddy currents heat the copper pipe,and thus the water in side the pipe. So we know an equal and opposite force is created between the rotor and copper-the drag on the rotor is the same as the drag on the copper pipe. But my question is this-the copper pipe and water gets hot,but do the magnets on the rotor also get hot?-we are assuming that the copper pipe is insulated,and radiant heat from the copper pipe dose not heat the rotating magnets.

[allcanadian]

@Mark
DWFTTW

A lot of well educated people did not think that it could work.  But there
were no laws that it broke.

I would agree and that was my point,  hovever we should be perfectly clear that almost all the experts claimed the Down Wind Faster than the Wind technology must violate the laws of physics and be a perpetual motion machine... Period... no futher debate required. They used the laws to justify their misguided opinions simply because they didn't understand what was happening, that is what I'm talking about. Let's not sugar coat this because they made themselves look absolutely stupid and it is still archived all over the net for all to see.
If they actually had any real integrity they would have given the proper response which is -- "I do not know we will have to wait for more facts" --because those are the facts but saying it must violate the laws of physics is obviously a lie.

AC

[tinman]

@Mark
DWFTTWI would agree and that was my point,  hovever we should be perfectly clear that almost all the experts claimed the Down Wind Faster than the Wind technology must violate the laws of physics and be a perpetual motion machine... Period... no futher debate required. They used the laws to justify their misguided opinions simply because they didn't understand what was happening, that is what I'm talking about. Let's not sugar coat this because they made themselves look absolutely stupid and it is still archived all over the net for all to see.
If they actually had any real integrity they would have given the proper response which is -- "I do not know we will have to wait for more facts" --because those are the facts but saying it must violate the laws of physics is obviously a lie.

AC

There's the money shot right there AC-well done.

They had a good handle on there laws-->until the back yard boys blew them out of the water. But as always,it was just an oversite--it's all fixed now

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[MarkE]

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