Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[minnie]

   Look toward some experiments on a grand scale. The Sun is doing a huge amount when
it comes to magnetism and I would assume that even though the conditions are extreme
the basic principles work similar to here on Earth.
               John.

[ramset]

Mark E
its your quote...?
Amsterdam and Hope ??,sorry I don't follow your other threads .


whatchamean  ??
thx


Chet

[MarkE]

Mark E
its your quote...?
Amsterdam and Hope ??,sorry I don't follow your other threads .


whatchamean  ??
thx


Chet

Yes it is.  It means that no amount of wishing changes the way that nature behaves.

[tinman]

Yes it is.  It means that no amount of wishing changes the way that nature behaves.

And believing that man knows natures every motion is a misconception..
To believe that the charge itself is what creates the magnetic field is an incorrect assumption. It is the charge carriers motion that determonds the magnetic field around a conductive path-not the charge itself .if there were no charge carriers, there would be no charge.

I wonder just how many here have done the compass, current through a wire test with other materials other than metalic conductors.

I wonder why back in the days of old, the radio in my prized muscle car stop picking up ignition noise when I swaped out the old wire sparkplug leads for high performance silicon leads.

I wonder why my clamp on current meter will read AC current going through a copper power cable, but wont read didley sqat if I try to read the same AC current through a carbon fibre power lead.

I wonder if ions carry current in the same manner as electrons do?-I wonder if the motion between the two is the same when carrying a current?.

[Pirate88179]

I have been sitting by watching, and learning, but, I have a question.

I have seen it said here that the movement of electrons through a conductor is what creates the magnetic field...right?

I am not going to argue, at this point, that the two do not go hand in hand....but...
What if, applying current creates that magnetic field AND it is the magnetic field that allows the flow of electrons?  This would also explain
why we do not appear to see one without the other.

Could this be tested experimentally?  I do not know of any way to get rid of the magnetic field to see if the current still flows.  I suppose I am wondering if it is sort of a chicken and the egg type of thing.  Do we really KNOW that the current flow creates the field?  Or, might not the field be created which allows electron flow?

Very possibly a stupid question but...I had to ask it.

Bill