Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[minnie]

    I'm fascinated by the circular patterns which occur with the Ferrocell  pictures.
Just wondered if there was a simple explanation.
                      John.

[synchro1]

Tinman:

One more thing to mention that's very important:

Pull-force on a test piece of iron is not the same thing as the strength of the magnetic field.

Based on reading your postings, I am still not convinced that you understand this concept.  My impression is that you think [stronger pull force = stronger magnetic field] when that is not necessarily the case.  If you don't get this concept then some of what I stated in my previous big posting may throw you off.

When you probe the pull force around a coil with a test piece of iron that does not directly tell you the strength of the magnetic field.  They are related but they are not the same.

So, do you get this concept?   We have to be speaking a common language.

MileHigh

"Pull-force on a test piece of iron is not the same thing as the strength of the magnetic field".


This is nothing but complete bullshit. All magnetometers work on the principle of attraction to magnetic objects starting with Gauss and Faraday.

[synchro1]

This is going to be a time-out on this thread to address a completely different issue:

Captain Zero, can you see a nice lively discussion going on here?  Aren't we just discussing tech and bouncing ideas back and forth and having a spirited debate?

Is this the work of the evil cabal?  Are the Men in Black scurrying around in the background working to poison Timnan's mind?

This the stuff that you always ignore.  Just a friendly discussion with some strong views, all part of a healthy normal debate.  It's something very positive, people can read this stuff and try go get something out of it and improve their own skills.

But no, I and others are just "paid shills," here to "disrupt the creative process" according to you?  Between that crazy view of yours and your endless filthy potty-mouth scat-boy jackass talk, what an idiot you come across as.

Really, can you at least stop the infantile potty-mouth talk?  That would be a good first step.  The next step is to stop talking like some paranoid tragicomic character in some lousy B-grade Hollywood movie.  I am just so sick of it and I am willing to bet you that many other are too.

Stop the fucking ass-licking turd-boy talk, please!

MileHigh

@MileHigh,

You're shameless about constantly feeding complete bullshit like this into the forum: 

"Pull-force on a test piece of iron is not the same thing as the strength of the magnetic field".

[ramset]

TinMan
Some light reading directly related to misconceptions  . And perhaps a method to harvest energy
From some heretofore difficult venues....?

http://bovan.net/gmweb2/The%20FS%20Loop.htm.  (From a friend of Yours )


Enjoy


Chet

[MarkE]

"Pull-force on a test piece of iron is not the same thing as the strength of the magnetic field".


This is nothing but complete bullshit. All magnetometers work on the principle of attraction to magnetic objects starting with Gauss and Faraday.

You are wrong.  M the measure fo the entire field of a magnet is found by integrating the magnet's entire flux.  Yes magnetometers measure mechanical force exerted, but no the force is not a direct reading of M.