Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[verpies]

How about just one continual cycle?

The same.  One is also an integer number.

[tinman]

My take on it is this:  First of all it's "give back the energy" not "give back the power."  It's very important here to draw this distinction.

You are basically talking about the so-called "back-EMF spike" in a Bedini motor here.  I will call it a pulse of current associated with the inductor discharging its stored energy.

To say that the back-EMF spike is "pure voltage with almost no current" like you know who, so-called "radiant energy," is basically an insane statement.  By definition it's a pulse of current.

We have now switch to energy in and energy out to cover all bases.

[tinman]

The same.  One is also an integer number.

Please clarify.
If a hot piece of steel is giving of heat as it cool's,it is doing useful work.Then once it has cooled to ambiant temperature,no more useful work is being done,and all energy has been disipated as heat. Is this one cycle?-or the integer number of cycles you state cannot be shown?.
Im a little lost here with this fancy talk-can we switch to human language?

[verpies]

Please clarify.
If a hot piece of steel is giving of heat as it cool's,it is doing useful work.Then once it has cooled to ambiant temperature,no more useful work is being done,and all energy has been disipated as heat. Is this one cycle?

No, that's half a cycle.  The other half is heating up this steel to get back to the starting point.
For a full cycle you always have to get back to the starting point, regardless whether that point represents position, temperature, pressure, speed, flux, charge, etc...

Im a little lost here with this fancy talk-can we switch to human language?

No. First of all, I am human and secondly the common talk is good for picking up common girls but is too imprecise for science.
For example, the common talk often confuses mass with force and power with energy and change with rate of change, etc... where the distinctions between them can be very significant.

[tinman]

1-So we agree that energy cannot be created or destroyed-only transformed.

2-It dose take energy to create a magnetic field.

3-All of that energy from the magnetic field is transformed when the magnetic field gives up it's energy.

OK-next question.
We charge a capacitor,say a 10 000uf electrolitic capacitor ,and we charge it up to 12 volt's-from zero volt's-->just incase the question should arise.

1-The energy taken to charge that cap to 12 volts is more than the stored energy in that cap after it is charged to the 12 volts-correct? What has that extra energy (over the now stored energy in the cap)been transformed into?-heat?.

2- The cap is leaky,and the stored energy in the cap is slowly being discharged. What is the slowly discharging energy being transformed into?.