Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[tinman]

What polarity(field) is an EMP from a neuclear explosion?-north or south field?.

[tinman]

Tinman:

Just a serious note about the resolution of the big discussion.  You kept on harping about how you work on the bench and the experiments on the bench give you the real deal.  Many times you scoffed at the idea of learning stuff in books.  As a side note you may have seen me post a few times that a while back I made a rough estimate of my lifetime bench experience and it is about 4500 hours.  It's not a small amount of time, and it's not a huge amount of time compared to some others.

You have been experimenting for perhaps three or four years now.  You have probably done hundreds of experiments related to magnetic fields in one form or the other.  And yet, it's pretty evident that the whole time you have been doing your experiments you clearly did not fully understand magnetic fields when you did these experiments.  Sometimes that may have tripped you up, other times not.  You did not understand magnetic field strength vs. magnetic field gradient as it relates to pulling force.  I think you still struggle with north-south vs. the fact that there is no actual north and south.  The experiment to compare copper wire vs. iron wire was a comedy of errors on both sides of the debate.

So the lesson from this, and it's an important lesson, is that you have to combine bench experiments with practical theory.  It's simply too easy to think you know what you are doing when in fact you don't know what you are doing.  Every forum experimenter needs to take that lesson from this debate.

I mentioned Jason Verbelli on the Searl thread.  About a year and a half ago I got into a debate with him on one of his YouTube clips where he was playing with magnets and his magnetic viewing film.  It quickly became apparent to me that he was totally clueless about magnetics, not even functioning at a grade 8 level.  He rejected everything I told him.  He used the magnetic viewing film without even knowing what it was telling him, and without even asking himself if he understood how the film worked.  All that he did was look at the patterns in the film and interpret that as "confirmation" of what he was thinking.  Now Jason "works" at "Searl Magnetics" (or whatever they are called) in San Diego.  I am willing to bet you he is still just as clueless and Fernando tasks him with things to do but he never actually tells Jason that he does not really understand magnetic fields.  Like I sometimes say, that's like it's a scene right out of the move Dr. Strangelove.

I remember a few years back discussing ideal inductors and ideal capacitors to try to explain things to people.  Did I ever get push-back and derision and flack hurled at me when I did that.  I was made to feel like I was an idiot.  I see that nothing like this happened from anyone in this debate, and that's a real sign of progress.

So again, theory plus bench experience - that's the best way to go forward.  The motivation for stating this on my part is two-fold.  Firstly, it's so experimenters can simply better themselves and and get more out of their experiments.  Secondly, it's to make it a more hostile environment for the criminals out there that want to take advantage of people.  I can tell you an example.  I have looked at clips from those Aaron/Bedini conferences that take place every year.  I have seen Bedini standing in the center of a group of grown men saying the most ridiculous nonsense, so ridiculous I almost want to scream.  The grown men standing around him are at rapt attention, as if they are in the presence of a great man.  There is something wrong with that picture.

The more informed people get, the better off they are, and the more difficult it will be for criminals to operate in their midst.  That's the hope at least.

I didn't mean to fry you on a skillet here.  We just had a big debate, I think that you along with many other people learned some new stuff and perhaps your attitude has changed a bit also but I don't want to put words in your mouth.  I just think that it's important to say some of these things.  I don't know everything and I don't claim to know everything.  But I do know some things and I trust my knowledge and instincts to tell me when I am seeing criminal fraud.  Making life more difficult for criminals and perhaps saving people from parting with their money is what I like to do.  That's my "working on the bench."

MileHigh

MH
If i know so little,and you know so much with your 4500 hours benchwork and book's,then how is it i had to correct you about the single coil v the two coils-1 either side of the magnet?.

It's funny how things work some time's. Since i have been with my current employer,we have been through about 7 mechanics-6 hopeless,and 1 absolutely brilliant-but he decided to go on a trip around our wonderfull country. Funny thing was,that the guy that was really good at the job,was also the only one out of the 7 that wasnt trade qualified-all hands on only.

So here in lies the problem-im simply not interested in learning theories that i dont believe are correct. If i did that,then i would be heading down the same dead end you guy's are-no advancement-and still no idea as to what the hell a magnetic field actually is after that wonderfull 200 years. Same go's with gravity-the best they have is-->gravity sucks,a mass attracts another mass-->well thats helpfull.

We come to these forums to look for something different-not to be taught the same old same old that has gone no where in 200 years. Sure we have tweeked things a little here and there,but you only have to look at the ICE to see how far we havnt gone since the steam engine. It also seems that the big guns arnt interested in improving much on the ICE-you only have to look at the valve system to see that. Take a standard inline 6 cylider-2 valves per cylinder.
A list of the moving parts
12 valve springs
12 valves
24 spring retainers
1 camshaft
12 rocker arms
12 lifters
12 pushrods if it's not OHC
All this takes around 3HP out of your engine.

At the age of 19,i designed and built an engine that used only 1 moving part to do the same job as all that crap above-oh,and it required about .2 of a HP to drive,and even though i had a working prototype to show,do you think anyone was interested in it?-no,no and no.

I have a thread going else where about a gravity/buoyant device that puts out more energy than it consumes-(by the book),and do you think any interest has been shown in that?-->there is one other person giving an input-thats it.

I simply have no faith in current science and physics taking us any further than they have,and i believe that we will go no further until we throw the theories away,and start looking for the real deal here.

So once again-im not here to learn the same old shit that the books of 200 year ago have to offer--they just simply dont have the answers we seek. Did the guys that supposedly came up with all this stuff have book's to learn from?--nope,they did it all on the bench.

New discoveries are not found in old book's.

[MarkE]

What polarity(field) is an EMP from a neuclear explosion?-north or south field?.

Do you think nuclear explosions are solenoidal?

[tinman]

The real mechanical analogy for a resistor is a "damper."   

The wonderful world of physics!

The real mechanical analogy for a resistor would be a slipping clutch. Heaps of power from the engine getting turned into heat,and not transfered to the load(the car).

[tinman]

Do you think nuclear explosions are solenoidal?

I dont think much of them at all,it was a legit question-but once again Mark,just answered with another question.