How to make a gravity over balance wheel spin! Probably not OU but interesting t

[AB Hammer]

nwman

I hit maybe for it is an interesting approach. But my concern is that to spin it with the fluid to get the reaction.  You have already supplied the energy needed, but no gain or OU. Of course  IMHO.
I have played with fluid designs and there is some problems that need to be addressed for instance the friction of going through the fluid.



Alan

[nwman]

You are correct. It will take a bit of energy to get the water up to the sides. The question really would be then," How much energy is needed to "keep" the water up on the sides"? This may be a lot less according to the First Law. ?

Would I be correct in saying that once it is at speed it should only take enough force to overcome the friction of the bearings it's spinning on, wind etc...? The water shouldn't be any different then having the same amount of solid weight in the same position spinning. For example if you have a bicycle tire spinning, once it is up to speed you only need to add a small amount of energy to maintain the speed.

In regards to friction, this approach would only work if there is an abundance of OU, if at all. Thus, friction would have an impact but I don't see it being the big reason why this wouldn't work... if it would work.... ha.

[nwman]

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this idea?

[lumen]

Just think of it like this:
The spinning causes a new direction of gravity and the water moves to the lowest point with the surface flat to the direction of the new gravity.
The bubbles of air in the water will move towards the surface because it's the direction of least pressure.
I'm convinced it could not work.

Hint, (on the other side of the earth the bubbles are moving down!)

[telecom]

If you make a water container large enough and drive it from the outside, you can have enough space inside to locate the weights w/o interference with the centrifugal forces.
For example, just have a spinning wheel with the weight on one side passing through the water.
This will be much simpler to understand, IMHO.
The container should have a hole in the middle, which is not important since the water will be
pushed to the sides, but it will help to place the spinning wheel.
Correction - I didn't take into account the resistance which this arrangement will create to the flow of water - not going to work!