Magdrive HHO Generators

[hanker886]

Hi, Anyone think ultrasonic generator might help the spliting of water? I asked MagDrive about oher maker claims its necessary to heat the fuel and incease tire pressure or it will not ahieve the result. MagDrive did not answer the question but just said "you decide...don't compare apple with orange..."

[helmut]

I'm 39 years old, not a young pup, but your right on a lot of what you said . Yes, I have read the vacuum electrolysis but they where looking to get deuterium D2O, not hydrogen and oxygen for use. They created some black stuff not yet identified. I am going too add to Faradays work with my some of my new theories.

It's good to talk to someone like you, someone who can see the limitations of the books. My friends and I are plaining on changing the world one engine at a time, plus I will go out and start taking people off the grid soon. My dream is to see a day that no one ever dies because they could not afford to turn on their AC or heater, and that the world be a better place for all that live in it, plus this technology will free mankind to explore far off places like Mars and beyond.....

Greed is the one reason why oil is still being wasted, we are just burning it up. How to combat the greedy, when they are so willing to put people to their deaths just to keep the black gold flowing? If you can answer that one I'd be eternally grateful. I know I might be disappeared or killed if I keep this up, but I think it's worth dieing for. What do you think? I am prepared to leave the country at a moments notice. For mankind to advance we need this technology.

I just want to do my part to help make a difference. Why take all this college just to sit on the knowledge is my thinking, after my time in the army losing some soldiers in this war on terror, I feel I owe it to them and too their families to get off of my butt and do something.

@h2O Power
I love reading your Words.
That worms me up and led me Hope.

Live can be so nice without politicians.

Helmut

[h20power]

I'm 39 years old, not a young pup, but your right on a lot of what you said . Yes, I have read the vacuum electrolysis but they where looking to get deuterium D2O, not hydrogen and oxygen for use. They created some black stuff not yet identified. I am going too add to Faradays work with my some of my new theories.

It's good to talk to someone like you, someone who can see the limitations of the books. My friends and I are plaining on changing the world one engine at a time, plus I will go out and start taking people off the grid soon. My dream is to see a day that no one ever dies because they could not afford to turn on their AC or heater, and that the world be a better place for all that live in it, plus this technology will free mankind to explore far off places like Mars and beyond.....

Greed is the one reason why oil is still being wasted, we are just burning it up. How to combat the greedy, when they are so willing to put people to their deaths just to keep the black gold flowing? If you can answer that one I'd be eternally grateful. I know I might be disappeared or killed if I keep this up, but I think it's worth dieing for. What do you think? I am prepared to leave the country at a moments notice. For mankind to advance we need this technology.

I just want to do my part to help make a difference. Why take all this college just to sit on the knowledge is my thinking, after my time in the army losing some soldiers in this war on terror, I feel I owe it to them and too their families to get off of my butt and do something.

@h2O Power
I love reading your Words.
That worms me up and led me Hope.

Live can be so nice without politicians.

Helmut

HI All, Well if you look on page four(4) on this topic I put some numbers that can be used by anyone that wants to find out the effects of vacuum on electrolysis. I am working with four different theories trying to combine them for this will put you in overunity. The first is Valance electron theory, knowing that oxygen is paramagnetic we can use this to our advantage. The electrolysis unit must be have no magnetizim of it's own so try too use metals that are non-magnetic. The outer case should be postive and you bring the negetive of the engine too the electrolysis unit, make sure you isolate it so it doesn't ground out. This gives a path for the oxygen atoms to follow, just like a magnet they will go to the negetive that you brought over. If you look at my newest design you will see that the top cap is seperate from the rest, that is my negetive (page 5 or 6) The tubing used has steel inside that I was able to get too easly. Now the oxygen produced will go strait to the piston on it's own. Note the unit might have to been magnetically shielded. The Second theory is the phase diagram of water and it's relationship too electrolysis (vacuum theory) that's on page four(4) and was gone over very well. The Third theory is Myers voltage work theories, with his device voltage is set up in a way that it is doing the work and not the current of normal electrolysis go to waterforfuel.com for all of the information on his technology for they have advanced it some. And the fourth and last theory is the hydronium ion build up effect if the cell is set up to do the capacitor effect (charged water for short). When water builds up a charge it has been pushed out of it's normal equilibrium and the auto-ionozation of water has been push to new limits. You can test this for water that is charged will hold a voltage of 0.7-1.5volts on its own. (For safty it is not known if it can blow up like a capacitor can so take some precations.) Now since hydronium ions can not exist in waters vapor form when vapor is pulled off you get a some percentage of that vapor being hydrogen and oxygen gas. Hydronium ions will normally attach too 6-20 water molecules so for every 6-20 water molecules pulled off you will get two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom depending on how the hydronium ions attached to the water molecules.

I thought titainium was a good metal to use, I think I might be wrong on that one, I was doing some research on galvantic action and found out that titainium will get messes up by hydrogen and also why you should not use water that has flurine in it. The hydrogen will combine with the flurine to make HF and this pritty much puts a stop to the electrolysis process all you will end up getting is oxygen and hydrogenflurine gas. So, if your tap water or water source has flurine in it don't use it. It will make hydrogenflurine gas until all of the flurine has been used up. And anoter safty note, make sure to dump out the bottom of the tanks from time to time as it will build up D2O since water natrually has D2O in it at about .015% per every gallon of water. For D2O is harder to break down than water is so it will be left behind, easyest way to test for D2O is too freeze the water in question and put the resulting ice in water if it sinks it D2O. I hope everyone passes on this information and puts it to good use and know it is I, h20power, that made up two of these theories numbers two and four .

And a last note if you feel you have something to add then do so for this is uncharted area here lots more to be found out I'm for sure. Lots of luck everyone take care and God Bless .

[idnick]

Now this is how to make gas!!!!!!!!

Check out this site. WaterFuel1978 dot com

"If you look in our catalog or ebay ad, you can see the small cell is approx 2"
x 2"x 8". The water goes in one small end and gas comes out the other small end
(no water leaves the cell). The eight inches of length on the small cell is more
than enough to split 2.5 gallons per minute."   

Dave

[pg46]

 idnick

Couldn't find that website. How many amps does your system use? How much does the system cost?

At 2.5 gallons per minute, do you mean it will produce around 10 lts gas/min ?