Magdrive HHO Generators

[IronHead]

Let the engines vacuum take what it can from the cell. You need two lines from cell to engine. First line or low vacuum to the manifold, this is for idle .Second line  right into the intake throat between  the throttle body and the air cleaner. Angle the line toward the throttle body. On both lines you need check valves.

Make sure there are no vacuum leaks in you cell or anywhere else for that matter.

Always start engine first  and then turn on cell. Cell should always be under constant vacuum. When shutting engine off ,shut down cell first.
This stops HHO gas from building up in the intake plenum .
MagDrive has a full set of electronics to automate the starting and shutting down process. Simple relays, solenoids and such.

The vacuum and rpm sensors will tell the computer there is enough fuel present for a given RPM. The computer (ECM)will regulate the injectors pumping less gasoline to the cylinders. Now your burning a mix HHO , Gasoline ,and everything is happy.


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IronHead

[hanker886]

IronHead,

Thanks fo explaining. I guess my point is: computer is designed without the HHO in picture. The lowest amount of gasoline it allows is more than it needs when HHO unit is installed. So the HHO device is not up to its potential without mmodifying the chip's program. Correct me if I am wrong. thks

[hanker886]

IronHead,

Thanks for explaining. My point is the car chip was designed without HHO in mind. The lowest level of gasoline injected most likely is still too much with HHO. If my understanding is correct, the device is not up to the potential without chip reprograming.

[IronHead]

My point is ,the injectors will completely shut down  if no gasoline is needed to run the engine to maintain that rpm. I have watched this on a SnapOn analyzer a hundred times while engine is running.Thats with a big "Cell " and alot of HHO. If the HHO level is not high enough to maintaining rpm the injector will feed it some gasoline again maintaining rpm .This is all intermittent in milliseconds.

The computer has no idea what kind of fuel you are running.
All it knows is that the engine is running at this rpm and that vacuum.
The three main senors that tell the electronic monitor whats going on is throttle position,vacuum and rpms. All the other stuff is mainly for economy and emissions. This information is then sent to the controller side of the computer. The only thing the controller does is control the injectors, timing and in some systems the spark duration.

Lets look at why vacuum HHO works

First thing is ,you are not force feeding the engine HHO  (Gases are not under pressure) If you used something like Propane ( pressurized gas) and stick a tube into the intake throat ,open the gas valve to full .(not metered) gases would build up in the engine. The injectors will shut down trying to compensate.
.The timing will go crazy , the spark duration will max out  as the rpms climb to the detonation of the engine.

But we aint doin that. We have a system here that depends on the vacuum of the engine. The more the motor revs or is loaded the more HHO is produced (Because of vacuum) and drawn in. If you produced more HHO than vacuum ,Aint going to happen but if you did ,the negative vacuum would  go positive and you would have the same problem we had with the Propane statement..

HHO production is based on Cell design , supplied DC current and Vacuum.Vacuum is sort of a control of production like a throttle.

MagDrive makes the best HHO system available at the best price I have seen anywhere.

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  IronHead

[fuelfromh2o]

IronHead,
Excellent explanation concerning the call for HHO under vacuum. it was good to talk to you today, enjoyed the conversation. As I had mentioned we had a visitor from the New Energy Congress back on the 13th of Feb. He came up from Australia and spent a few days with us.
We took out the Dodge ram for a test drive or two with and with out the Magnum running for comparative analysis. First without it we got mileage in the upper 18-20mpg. After completing the run we refueled at the same location and duplicated the same trip again. After completing the trip the mileage increased according to Mark from NEC appx 3 mpg on the prototype. I personally was not at all satisfied with the results. So I looked into the situation and found a small problem which I corrected the following day. Unfortunately Mark had already left to return back to Australia. I ran the test anyway just to see if the problems had been corrected. "IT WAS",  the venturi tubes were incorrectly sized leading into the throttle body.
The mileage on the vehicles computer went from the 20 mpg average  up to 38.1 mpg at one point and leveled out in the 28mpg average area over all from the beginning including the entire trip from start to finish. The Dodge computer takes overall averages from the time its set until its reset once again, unfortunately it doesn't display actual fuel consumption at every instance that its operating. It takes the highest and the lowest numbers and runs a compiling average between them. Anyway I will be putting up an actual running flow test on the New Magnum HHO Series gen system very soon using a Dwyer VFA24 flow meter. The Magnum will be released to the public in early March for consumer use. There is an installation video available on our website www.fuelfromh2o.com for those who may be interested. Looking forward to your visit when you get out of the snow country.
Jim
MagDrive