perpetual motion

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Tinselkoala.
                 I'm very sorry, to hear you say that.   You are obviously, misguided, and confused!   The makers of these
machines that you mentioned, DID NOT use the 'laws' of motion, to develop them, they simply, fitted in AFTER their
devices were developed.     2+2= 4, so does 3+1.   I could go on ------------ stop being stupid!
BILL.

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I'm sorry, Webby,
                        I haven't a clue, what you're talking about!     Can you be more specific?
BILL.

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Thanks Webby 1,
                         One of the things to remember, is this;   if people keep saying perpetual motion is impossible,
without 'proving' it, and are just taking the word of well known scientists etc.., which is NOT proof in itself, and
they, (the scientists), provide mathematical 'proof/s' of their theories, which may be very close, but not accurate,
then it may 'put off' those people who might invent a device, that 'may' break the so-called 'laws' of motion, and
it 'may' be a perpetual motion device!
BILL.

[Pirate88179]

Thanks Webby 1,
                         One of the things to remember, is this;   if people keep saying perpetual motion is impossible,
without 'proving' it, and are just taking the word of well known scientists etc.., which is NOT proof in itself, and
they, (the scientists), provide mathematical 'proof/s' of their theories, which may be very close, but not accurate,
then it may 'put off' those people who might invent a device, that 'may' break the so-called 'laws' of motion, and
it 'may' be a perpetual motion device!
BILL.

I think I understand what you are saying here but, so far, every one that has attempted a perpetual motion device has "proven" that it does not work.  It has been "proven" for hundreds of years.  This is not to say that it will never be done, I do not like to speak in absolutes which is why I said "so far", in my first sentence.  All I am saying is that, at this point in time, all of the laws dealing with this type of device still hold up.  We will have to see what the future holds.

Bill  (Great name)

[TinselKoala]

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                        I haven't a clue

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You got that part right, at least.