perpetual motion

[SPANG]

If somebody tells you that perpetual motion is impossible, then he/she must have had access to a 'TIME-MACHINE' -------- travelled to the 'end of time' ----------- found out that perpetual motion IS impossible ------------ came back, and
told you!      I doubt that very much, don't you?
If a perpetual motion device IS ever made, and it breaks the so-called 'laws' of motion, too bad.
Because such a device, has yet to be made/invented, doesn't mean it never will.
BILL.

[AB Hammer]

Well Bill

I have to second that statement for it is well thought out. But don't leave Bessler out of it, for if they had a time machine, they could go back and possibility at least film Bessler and have better clues despite him not showing the inside.


Alan

[MarkE]

If somebody tells you that perpetual motion is impossible, then he/she must have had access to a 'TIME-MACHINE' -------- travelled to the 'end of time' ----------- found out that perpetual motion IS impossible ------------ came back, and
told you!      I doubt that very much, don't you?
If a perpetual motion device IS ever made, and it breaks the so-called 'laws' of motion, too bad.
Because such a device, has yet to be made/invented, doesn't mean it never will.
BILL.

Ironically, a time machine that can go backwards and forwards would mean that perpetual motion is possible.

[SPANG]

Al,
    I see what I wrote, as simple common sense.   All the so-called 'laws', of motion etc..., must 'all' come under
this heading!
How, on Earth, can 'anyone' say that 'such-and-such' is a 'law', without travelling to the 'end of time', to find out
if that 'law' is correct?     Anyone, who believes  that the 'laws' of motion are correct, without having travelled to
the 'end of time', to prove them correct, must be kidding themselves!   Lemmings.
BILL.

[TinselKoala]

If you ride a bike, drive a car, fly in an airplane, cross a bridge, ride a train... you can thank a bunch of Engineers. All of whom believe in the Laws of Motion, enough to engineer using them, to make this modern world in which we find ourselves... and which we take so much for granted. Even the computer you are reading this on was designed by engineers and scientists who respect those laws you are railing against.

Perhaps they are not "right" in whatever sense you want to define. But they are certainly right enough "for government work" or any other operations you might want to try. Take a look at the Cassini mission to Saturn. Nearly a billion miles, many years of travel time, by a robot probe, sent on its way and navigating using those laws of motion that upset you so. We (but not you, you unbeliever!) landed a robot probe on Titan! Using Newton's laws! When you can come up with something better than that... please let me know right away.