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Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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tgraca

Fausto, sorry about my terrible build and major fail, but I did learn and reaffirm a few things. This video shows the build in a short slide show and the 45 min. charge, which was at least less than ideal. It was a fun and very messy project! Enjoy! I'll share more as I move onto experimenting with variations of your formula F134. Thanks for sharing! - teo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFAVwLn4mgQ

Note: the mag strips held up fine, but the copper wire completely disintegrated. I made 4 additional batteries with the leftover electrolyte (6 total) and will be testing them all over the next week. I'm building some of those flashing circuits for long term testing and will report my findings.

PS - I left this video as "unlisted" so anyone can view it, but it doesn't show up on searches. I hate sharing failures, unless it goes toward showing how I got a success, but this one's for you Fausto as I learn.


moderator: Cell #345 Teo Graca

plengo

Quote from: tgraca on November 21, 2014, 10:36:15 AMFausto, sorry about my terrible build and major fail, but I did learn and reaffirm a few things. This video shows the build in a short slide show and the 45 min. charge, which was at least less than ideal. It was a fun and very messy project! Enjoy! I'll share more as I move onto experimenting with variations of your formula F134. Thanks for sharing! - teohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFAVwLn4mgQNote: the mag strips held up fine, but the copper wire completely disintegrated. I made 4 additional batteries with the leftover electrolyte (6 total) and will be testing them all over the next week. I'm building some of those flashing circuits for long term testing and will report my findings.PS - I left this video as "unlisted" so anyone can view it, but it doesn't show up on searches. I hate sharing failures, unless it goes toward showing how I got a success, but this one's for you Fausto as I learn.


Teo,


Thanks man for the video. I am laughing my butt off with this video. The music really helps.  ;D


Hey, don't worry about failures, there are no such a thing, we always learn from those, so right there is a success.


Ok, let's go to the corrections and observations.
First now I know where you are at your lab, great. Now I have a baseline of YOU. Perfect.


The mix was too much man. You only need a little bit (like the tsp not TSP) and water, 70ml. Looks like you used many TABLE spoons. Too much. What you used there I could make about 100 cells. So next time use tsp (tea spoon) little small.


On the build you used copper wire, that will not work I think, since I use copper pipe. You could get those cheap at homedepot or local hardware store. The 1/4 inch pipe probably will be excellent for the Magnesium ribbons you are using.


Next you need KITCHEN towels paper. Wrap the Magnesium with it BUT BEFORE you wet the paper with the SOLUTION (not pasta) of the formula. This became a "soup-thermo-static" cell  ;D .


You said in the video "too much water", but it is the opposite. Take a medication bottle like those from CVS, put 50 ml of distilled water, and put the powders inside and mix it. It will be just a black water, BUT VERY WATERY. A solution.


Cut paper towel to the length of the Mg ribbons and wet it with the solution, wrap it around the Mg. Now put the "roll" inside the copper pipe. Make sure to use lots of paper so that the Mg with the Paper (more like a stick now) will be tight snug inside the pipe. Like a hot dog looking thing, where the pipe is the bread and the Mg with Paper is the sausage.


THEN apply the 62v and let it sizzle. It will start slowly until it becomes very hot and it will sizzle violently. You should see lots of water vapor going out.


Once the current drops to 200ma or so, you are done. Take the cell and let it dry completely, COMPLETELY. Let it become dry like a dead 100 years old bone.  :P


You should measure its voltage and should give you something around .7 or so volts. Current should be pretty much ZERO.  But Fausto, ZERO current? what kind of cell is that? ??? That is a cell that will run for a LONG TIME. Look at the graph below.


Once you get that we will continue. You are on the RIGHT PATH, just the wrong mixes and proportions and the wrong geometry.


Now, the copper WILL corrode a little bit, about 1 mm or less so using a wire it will disappear like it happen to you. When I saw that I laugh to almost pee in my pants.  ;D


The "Thermo" comes from the COOKING, high temperature, high enough to cause a solid electrolysis which will build a 1mm or so tick layer of copper oxide of sorts. The Magnesium should become pretty black but with a much smaller thickness, like .1 mm.


The "Static" comes from the VOLTAGE/CURRENT applied and its effect on the crystal that will grow.


You also forgot one very important thing which I did not mention (I was hoping to talk to you BEFORE you would start that), as it cooks you should add Epson solution to help the process and accelerate AND build the crystal inside the PAPER. THAT'S IS THE PURPOSE of the paper, a medium for crystal growth.


Well, this video is EXCELLENT, entertaining and fun. Next time you will be much better. Learn from what we do!


The graph below shows what this kind of cell should give when properly done. This graph is 4 cells together running one 10 mm LED green for 400 k seconds and she is still going, no signs of the MG or Copper to corrode aside from the initial corrosion caused by the forming process. This cell does not need water either. Born and run, that's it. The stability is something out of this world. (I hope skeptics start looking with more attention).







Fausto.

plengo

@ALL,


A video showing in more detail how to build and form the cell is coming.  (video: http://youtu.be/-fK2tLQdXp0)


Now, FOR THOSE willing to know the formula (like I gave to Teo) I will require that you send me a picture or video showing the lab, the meters, power supply and the materials (copper, mg, paper, etc). I will also need your PHYSICAL address and EMAIL.


No freebies here, If I don't know who you are I will not tell you the formula, simple. We are building trust here. Teo can attest that I DO disclaim a formula for this cell on the video to him but we agreed not to disclosure to anyone. The videos presented in this thread are also to be NOT DISCLOSED anywhere and the video clearly shows that, so please, no leaking since it will only make me go away.

I NEED EXPERIMENTERS here, people that will WORK on it and make a better world. I am not interested in people that will only get spoon fed and run away building their cells for profit and not making a better world for us.


I do not require geniuses here neither experienced builders (those can participate too). Anyone can participate as long as it follows my tests.


Fausto.

tgraca

Long term testing set up with JT circuit designed to test 1 cell. I
don't like to run them in series because any 2 cells I build are
never exactly the same and it's not a fair test per cell. Testing
cells individually allows you to check the subtle differences in the
builds and the performance of each cell. So, here's the long term
test I set up for my incomplete build of your formula F134. This
is my 344th Crystal Cell Build with an Fausto's formula partially
cooked and incomplete. (see my previous post)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFN74PfxFtA

Notes from first both cells: The 2 cells are both measuring about 2M
ohms. I didn't add any paper around the electrodes and there is at
least 1/4 inch between them, which accounts for the high impedance. I
had 3 teaspoons of part 1 of Fausto's electrolyte in these two cells and
never made it to part 2 of the mix. Fausto mentioned that 100 ohms of
impedance is ideal, so I will work on that. I do not have a dependable
power supply yet, so I may just cook the next batch. Fausto showed
about 170 degrees F / 76 C at in the cook, so I will go for that while I
work on the power supply issue.

tgraca

Fausto, Here's some details on my long term test for the uncooked version of part 1 of your mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQX4H_Mk3N4

I have 4 more uncooked cells - 2 with part 1 and 2 with part 2 of your mix... They are still wet from yesterday. I will put them under a long term test tomorrow and place them on my little shelf! lol