Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

[skywatcher]

Another question:
If the cell is not galvanic, why does it only work when two different metals are used ?
Why does it deliver more voltage when Cu/Mg is used, and less voltage if Cu/Al (or other combinations) are used ?

[ramset]

Skywatcher
Quite certain in the proper hands with electron scope
Things can be interpreted quickly and concisely.


And we do have this available


May not need electron scope either
I will find out


Also certain Fausto will have more input on his procedures
And vetting techniques over the years .

[plengo]

Well, i have been pondering about this question for a long time.


It is tricky because all my cells are contaminated. I don't have a lab so my techniques are far from what I would like to have. 


Since I only replicated my own work now, just this last week, which I published a video showing my A5 (that's her name), I am still not work in progress. Now I am on another level. At 1 mm Mg plates. Corrosion is very fast and very obvious. A simple magnifying glass shows it. Also how long it runs is important. Usually at 1 mm I can see corrosion in 4 hours.


So all my tests now are quicker than before. Before every test took weeks and months and all in one machine to log only. Now I am doing faster, many, many quicker tests.


So to answer our questions here it is what I am doing:


- Each set of cells that I make I take pictures/videos and put it to run under load and on the computer logging voltage and time. Load usually is a resistor. So i infer current. Too bad I don't have two sensors at once.
- After each quick run I open and inspect the plates.
- The run is based on how long water content will completely evaporate/dry from the cell.
- if no corrosion present, replenish the cell with FUEL and run it again.
- stop when corrosion is present.



Very simple. I test almost hundreds of cells this way. Previous years my methods were difficult because I cannot open the running cells anymore. They are set in stone now.

With this technique I can test many different materials and formulas. My work is almost 100% empirical. I don't care what the book says if it does not help. Just repeating that " it is REDOX " means nothing to me because none of the numbers and experiments that I do are equivalent to what the books are saying. It is a game. So I don't take the reality of "chemistry" as being absolute.


Another issue I see is that many are trying to make a BATTERY that is rechargeable. I am NOT. I want a MACHINE that produces electricity. A Transistor is not a BATTERY but a MACHINE. That is more like my line of thought. This crystal cell have more to do with semi-conductors than chemistry.


Now, here is a question that I would love to know. I have a copper plate and a magnesium plate with an oxide layer on top of it. Just putting this 2 dry plates together we have a voltage. How come? Voltage means it has some current even in the pico level. Where that infinity supply of pico current comes from? Don't that bother you? It does not die, ever. It is there always. Different layers or chemicals, different voltages. All of those cases have no power under a load. Interesting. Those 2 plates are capable of producing an infinite amount of pico current under a certain load. If you change this "load" even that pico current is gone. Interesting. Dynamic behavior or related to the load some how.


Well, that is leading me to another investigation that has been masked by the long running cells, galvanic or not. The EFFECT (as I call it) is present but it is so small that no one sees it when a galvanic reaction is happening.


Would be possible to isolate that little energy and amplify? I think so. I am working on exactly that.


Concerning Marcus Reid, no info to share. He seams to only publish a few videos marketing style then anything else. Frustrating but hey, his baby, his ways.
I want to share and have people helping.


Fausto.

The problem is that most of the crystal cells deliver so little power that you have to wait for years or even decades to rule out galvanic reaction.
Also the 'they don't die when shorted' argument is problematic because they have a high internal resistance so you can not really short them externally.

@Plengo:
How do you 'treat' the surface of your electrodes ?  I didn't find any info about this in your videos.
To replicate your results every detail how you make them is important.

[plengo]

Concerning the "treatment" of the plate.


Nothing special, just plain electrolysis. You can use vinegar as an electrolyte and also Sulfuric Acid. I use both.


I build many layers of "stuff" over the Mg plates and test them all. Voltage and current changes the outcome substantially. Millions of tests to perform. Of course I am following a certain intuition logic of my own.


Monkey Science.


Fausto.

[sm0ky2]

Hot vinegar can be used to dissolve any metal
Which can then be electroplated onto your Mg


I've been solidifying every metal i can, into a solid salt crystal
They each have their own color, they are identified as organo-metallic
and you don't want to touch most of them.