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Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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plengo

@ Teo,


I have an inconvenient request , if possible. Could you list in one post each cell that you created from 350 and up what is the cell made and the zapping or not? I am updating the spread sheet with those info and going through all the post is becoming confusing.


Fausto.


ps: I changed a few posts ago and removed one for clarity only. (Mostly because of my mistakes).

plengo

I forgot to mention this before. Those cells when super dry (F149 = Formula 149) will present a very small micro current BUT when open they will still present a voltage of +/- 1 volt.


The reason the current is so small even with a substantial voltage is because the INTERNAL RESISTANCE of the cell is huge. I think this is one of the reasons Bedini kept saying to "lock the water in" using a hydrate of sorts.


I am in a kind of agreement with him.


Here is my theory to may be, may be, help others in my monkey science. The electrodes will naturally create the potential difference. On a liquid that creates the "ions" (electrolyte) they will move and therefore causes the current and also the transportation of the ions from one plate to the other and cause the REDOX/OXYGENATION/CORROSION.


The oxide layers formed by my "zaping" (i name it FC62 for short) will avoid the "ions" to move to the point of "penetrating" the metals and "corroding" them. This is also Bedinis theory so far (if I am not wrong). Bedini uses a torch to form the "cupric" over the Copper only and he call it a "diode layer".


Now, too much water will cause the "diode layer" (the oxide layers) to deteriorate and allow the metals to decay with time. Too little water resistance is too high. There is a medium where it is just perfect. Some of the components in my formula are designed (by pure monkey excessive testing) to reduce that internal resistance by sheer ability of conducting electrons but not ions, such as the Carbon. Unfortunately Carbon with Magnesium will chew it up like candy on kids mouth. So another element to be balanced.


The hydrates are lacking in this formula but not on my most recent formulas. But for now lets keep simple and use this very successful formula F149.


This cell structure I proposed (see the video) does not have the hydrates so I have to find a different mechanism to hold the water in the right quantity (still working on that substantially - another reason I need more people working on this with tests). In this cell the medium is the PAPER. It will become a very strong and hard crystal structure which is the reason why "paper kitchen towel", it is porous and water absorbent. 


So, I cut the paper to the size of the Magnesium rod's length, apply the formula to the closest of the surface of the Magnesium and roll the paper. When applying FC62 (zapping) I kept adding Epson solution so that the outside perimeter of the paper which is the one closer to the copper will be MORE SATURATED of CRYSTALS than the inner perimeter where the Magnesium is present and more saturated of MnO2.


I know this is all rough tentative to accomplish something accordingly with my theory, but it is all I got with my ultra limited resources and no lab.


The sizzling being fast will dry up the cell as quick as I can to allow faster crystallization, evaporation of water and still maintain the majority of the "designed geometric distribution of chemicals" in place and form the "diode layers". Unfortunately that decreases the repeatability of the experiments. Hey, this is research  ;) .




F149 formula is:

- 6 parts Epson volume
- 3 parts Carbon Activated volume
- 3 parts MnO2 volume.


All volume not grams.


Fausto.








tgraca

Quote from: plengo on December 01, 2014, 12:19:28 PM
@ Teo, I have an inconvenient request , if possible. Could you list in one post each cell that you created from 350 and up what is the cell made and the zapping or not? I am updating the spread sheet with those info and going through all the post is becoming confusing. Fausto.
ps: I changed a few posts ago and removed one for clarity only. (Mostly because of my mistakes).
No zapping for any of these:
Crystal Battery #351 - Nov. 22, 2014 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UChgvI68y5M
Crystal Battery #352 - Nov. 23, 2014 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MubBsGGtxk
Crystal Battery #353 - Nov. 25, 2014 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPi8fkn1qFA
Crystal Battery #354 - Nov. 26, 2014* - thick peanut butter consistency - spooned in
Crystal Battery #355 - Nov. 27, 2014* - watery - poured in

*New Formula and proportions:
12 parts activated carbon
6 parts Epsom salt
2 parts hydrate #5
2 parts MnO2
1 parts borax

Things I learned from these cells and other experiments in the last week:
1. learned from cell 251 - PVC pipe build - all types of plastic are porous, which is why I think this cell is drying up.
    Also, copper pipe has more copper, so that seems to work better and it doesn't breath.
2. I can't tape copper onto the mag strips. It leaves a bad connection and is harder to seal the top of the cell.
    I will solder an alligator clip onto negative end of the JT circuit and just clip it on. This also allows me to easily
    intercept the current flow for a mA draw test.
3. Caulk is much easier to work with than epoxy or fiberglass when it comes to sealing up these cells. It is also easier
    to take apart later in case I want to inspect or rebuild these cells.
4. I am not sure if 352 (powder mix) or 354 (peanut butter consistency mix) is better. I am leaning toward the later.
5. Soaking in Borax (boron) will leave a black/gray oxide layer on the magnesium strip, which may be a good thing
    to do prior to building the cell.
6. It doesn't take much Epsom salt to activate these cells, so the proportions can be relatively small.
7. It's easy to get the types of alum mixed up (corrosion test was with the wrong type of alum and gobbled up my
    magnesium in less than 2 days! lol)
8. It takes me about: 10 minutes to build a cell; 20 minutes to build a JT circuit; 5 minutes to assemble a little
    combo shelf out of wood for the JT and cell, and 1 minute to hang it on the wall.... I need build quicker!

Teo

plengo

status of 149. So far total running time is 1200 thousand seconds. From November 16 to December 1, 2014 (born in March 10 2013 - died in June 2013, reactivated in November 2014).


Temperature of lab has changed dramatically between 25 to 18 Celsius.


tgraca

Quote from: plengo on December 01, 2014, 01:44:43 PM
status of 149.
That looks like 2 cells in series.
Is that under load?
- If so, what is the mA reading (power draw) under load? (This translates to the load)
Also, what is the mA reading shorted?
Thanks! -t
Note that these are basic questions nobody building these things really addresses, except me... not sure why...