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Overunity Machines Forum



Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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tgraca

Quote from: plengo on December 01, 2014, 12:42:10 PM
I forgot to mention this before. Those cells when super dry (F149) will present a very small micro current, BUT when open they will still present a voltage of +/- 1 volt. The reason the current is so small even with a substantial voltage is because the INTERNAL RESISTANCE of the cell is huge. I think this is one of the reasons Bedini kept saying to "lock the water in" using a hydrate of sorts. I am in a kind of agreement with him.

Now, too much water will cause the "diode layer" (the oxide layers) to deteriorate and allow the metals to decay with time. Too little water resistance is too high. There is a medium where it is just perfect. The hydrates are lacking in this formula, but not on my most recent formulas. But for now lets keep simple and use this very successful formula F149. This cell structure I proposed (see the video) does not have the hydrates so I have to find a different mechanism to hold the water in the right quantity (still working on that substantially - another reason I need more people working on this with tests). In this cell the medium is the PAPER. It will become a very strong and hard crystal structure which is the reason why "paper kitchen towel", it is porous and water absorbent. 

So, I cut the paper to the size of the Magnesium rod's length, apply the formula to the closest of the surface of the Magnesium and roll the
paper. When applying FC62 (zapping) I kept adding Epson solution so that the outside perimeter of the paper which is the one closer to the
copper will be MORE SATURATED of CRYSTALS than the inner perimeter where the Magnesium is present and more saturated of MnO2. I
know this is all rough tentative to accomplish something accordingly with my theory, but it is all I got with my ultra limited resources and
no lab.

The sizzling being fast will dry up the cell as quick as I can to allow faster crystallization, evaporation of water and still maintain the majority of the "designed geometric distribution of chemicals" in place and form the "diode layers". Unfortunately that decreases the repeatability of the experiments. Hey, this is research  ;) .

F149 formula is:

- 2 parts Epson volume
- 1 parts Carbon Activated volume
- 1 parts MnO2 volume.
Fausto, I cooked up one of these, but I think the electrolyte was too thin... it took a long time to cook. I'll post a video when it's done.
Quick question... I have a lot of space since the water boiled out... should I fill it with some activated carbon, or leave it empty? -t
PS - I corrected your parts... always use the least common denominator, so that instead of 3 and 6 parts, you show 1 and 2 parts.

plengo

I was thinking about, how to create a test that will empirically show the benefits of the FC62 (Zapping)?


Take 2 pieces of Copper wire. Use one of those in place of the Magnesium ribbon. Build 2 cells, one apply the zapping and the other one don't. Connect meters into the cell (volt/amp) and observe.


Add different mixes of solutions, Epson, Alum, Both, only water and so on. Observe the meters.


You will see that the cell with the zapping will have a much higher voltage/current (although in milli-volts) than the one NOT ZAPPED.


I have NOW being doing this kind of experiments with all sorts of metals and because of the results created the formula F223-2-P, which was the initial intent of this thread, BUT now I see that it is indeed necessary to start from a good beginning before going to a much farther level of progress but even farther from a hands-on-product. This formula F134 with cell 149 (or F149 as I call it) is a good way to have a running cell that lights an LED. Three of those cells SHOULD light an LED without a JT for sure. Another reason I put them together, although, it is less of a more precise test.


You will be surprise how can electrodes of the exact same metal can create a difference of potential consistently. Geometry is the first reason, in our case, the Zapping is the second reason.


Fausto.




plengo

I do like feed spoon people but it will depend on the context.


When I used to work as a software engineer I would spoon feed every member of my team. Then later a new CTO hated it. He wanted those being fed fired and hire more already fed developers. He fail to see that my technique created a much better product at mid to long term.


Obviously this CTO came to "rescue" the company since he, by empirically showing his actions (philosophy), was more interested in short term results at the cost of higher turn around than counting that a "tomorrow" will be available to the company, in other words, the company may not have tomorrow as so bad it is it's financial situation.



Off course the CTO/CFO/CEO knew all that but better let no one (employees) know that.


Concerning this forum I AM spoon feeding everyone already but as I see more people coming and some being experienced, like Teo (great work dude), I will by context implement that technique as the need arises.



Fausto.


ps: thanks Teo for spoon feeding me on the JTs too.  ;D

plengo

Quote from: tgraca on December 02, 2014, 11:31:48 AM
Fausto, I cooked up one of these, but I think the electrolyte was too thin... it took a long time to cook. I'll post a video when it's done.
Quick question... I have a lot of space since the water boiled out... should I fill it with some activated carbon, or leave it empty? -t
PS - I corrected your parts... always use the least common denominator, so that instead of 3 and 6 parts, you show 1 and 2 parts.


I don't understand the "too long time to cook". I built those Mg ribbons with Copper wire around and it took about 20 seconds to cook. My formula is very thin indeed. I want the smallest quantity possible for the same result.


And yes, the smallest common denominator is better. I said 6 and 3 for 50 ml so that one can have enough for 50 cells.


Don't fill the space at all. That space will be where the EPSON SOLUTION will settle and grow the crystals and "breath". Those techniques are not perfect but they work.


Fausto.

tgraca

Quote from: plengo on December 02, 2014, 12:14:19 PM
I don't understand the "too long time to cook". I built those Mg ribbons with Copper wire around and it took about 20 seconds to cook. My formula is very thin indeed. I want the smallest quantity possible for the same result. Don't fill the space at all. That space will be where the EPSON SOLUTION will settle and grow the crystals and "breath". Those techniques are not perfect but they work. Fausto.
I cooked it for about 10 minutes total. I had filled it to the brim with liquid, so that was my mistake. Next time I will just wet the coffee filter and leave it at that. I will add some hydrate #5 in my next mix, as in...

- 2 parts Epson volume
- 1 parts Carbon Activated volume
- 1 part MnO2 volume
- 1 part hydrate #5

This video is still compiling... it's only 9 minutes, but it takes about 10 minutes to compile just 1 minute of video with my current set up. I have been working on and off with video production for over 30 years, and I can tell you that all these upgrades to operating systems and the video editing software are really downgrades. At the industry's peak back in the early 2000's with much slower computers, video used to compile at the rate of 1 minute per 1 minute... I hate those that force these downgrades on us regularly... my video editing software reaches out and pulls ads for new "upgrades" - rat bastards!!!!