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Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 04, 2014, 07:48:43 AM
This stuff is readily available as bleach (about 5% by volume) and pool cleaning solutions, like he has, I am guessing around 15%.
I looked up some local brands, but couldn't determine the %. You can get it in a powder, which is easier to store and might give
you a better way to mix your cells. I don't any sitting around, but I'll take a look at what's available locally and see what the % is.

I posted my usual questions for Pete on the video. How long does it last initially? How long does it last between maintenance cycles?
How quickly does it eat the magnesium?  If he doesn't answer them soon, I may give it a try myself. The problem I see right away is
that it will probably eat right through my little caulk builds. Also, there are possible issues with chlorine gas and small quantities of
harmful byproducts. Plus, these probably have a bad odor.
Missed it the first time, but viewing that video again, I can see the mix is 125g/liter, which is 12.5%... I might make one of these
today with just bleach and see what happens. I do have some bleach, which is probably a little over 5%.

tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 04, 2014, 08:35:40 AM
Missed it the first time, but viewing that video again, I can see the mix is 125g/liter, which is 12.5%... I might make one of these
today with just bleach and see what happens. I do have some bleach, which is a little over 5%.
The bleach I had said it was 8.25% NaClO... I'll hook this up to a JT later... after it stops stinking! That bleach smell is horrible...
In any case, I am fine tuning my builds. The paper on the bottom worked out well. Folding most of the mag strip below the top
of the copper pipe works well and gives more mag in the electrolyte. The dental floss allows the mag to get closer to the copper.
stuffing the top with coffee filter allows the crystal to grow. I am not sure if the bleach will push open the seal, but I'll track that.
After this build, I definitely don't recommend using bleach... ugghhh...

Video on the build: http://youtu.be/BXoVU7P5rHk

tgraca

I think that if you don't zap cells, it's important to put them under load right away. I think this polarizes the electrolyte while it is forming.
I also wanted to test my digital amp meter readings against a few of my analog meters. #360 pegged over 200 mA on both and after 45
minutes shorted, it at 25 mA. #359 wasn't used for about a day and I ran the same tests, which started at 8 mA on short, but built up to
18 mA fairly quickly and has been holding there for the last 45 minutes. These are strong little cells.

PS - #360 has leaked more than 6 drops... It is probably reacting with the Epsom and/or caulk. In any case, the caulk ain't holding the
cell shut, so there is some kind of pressure building in the cell. My recommendation for this type of cell... just say no! lol

plengo

I am creating a video showing how to build a very simple cell using FC62 that is really easy to build and fast. The results are very interesting.

Fausto.

Heavens Pavement

Here is a f149cell (with f30v treatment) on charted over night, kept getting brighter before i went to bed. oscillator quit workings the only reason i took it off(drat)
the other is a old alum cell given the the f30v treatment with alum, 24 hours later just as bright, this is my longest running cell by far!