GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

[polln8r]

But would not water being sprayed by a hose to turn the Pelton turbine and generate electricity to be stored in those batteries be considered "water-powered?" They just leave out the part where the water needs to be moving.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's morally a complete sham. It looks like, based on all dissection done here, a home hydroelectric kit that runs a gizmo (the water pump) during operation for no other reason than to have the illusion that it's doing something. Shamefully low-down and dirty, considering how many might fall for it.

[MileHigh]

Let's do a hypothetical plot of common sense for the population on a Bell curve.  I am assuming that people know what a "Normal Distribution" is, a.k.a.; a "Bell curve."   If you don't know what a Bell curve is, then you should.  For those that don't, just do the searches and educate yourselves.

You can say, for the sake of argument, that the inverse of common sense is gullibility.  So a plot of the common sense distribution for the population is also a plot for the gullibility of the population.   Please see the attached drawing.

You can see how at the left extreme of the Bell curve for common sense, there is an area labeled, "people that will believe almost anything."

It's those people that GDS is making their pitch to.  Supposing the "people that will believe almost anything" group is one in one thousand people.  So if GDS can reach out and market their pitch to 20,000 people, then they stand a decent chance of getting 20 orders on the books with a 50% down payment.  That would be $50,000 in their PayPal account.

That's the real reason this "battery in a box scam" exists and is being promoted.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

But would not water being sprayed by a hose to turn the Pelton turbine and generate electricity to be stored in those batteries be considered "water-powered?" They just leave out the part where the water needs to be moving.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's morally a complete sham. It looks like, based on all dissection done here, a home hydroelectric kit that runs a gizmo (the water pump) during operation for no other reason than to have the illusion that it's doing something. Shamefully low-down and dirty, considering how many might fall for it.

Well, then follow through and figure out what kind of flow and pressure drop amounts to the at least 5000W in required to generate 5000W out at 100% efficiency.  A simple visual is that 5000W is 6.7HP.  If you don't have a feel for what a 7 HP motor looks like, then consider:

5000W = 5000 J/s = 5000N*m/s = 5000Pa*m³/s, or ~26.6 cuft/s*psi or ~1590 cuft/min*psi.  This corresponds to a pressure drop of  40psi and a flow of about 300gpm. 

Does anyone believe that the little turbine in that tank is churning out anything close to 300gpm with a 40psi drop for the small 5kW model or three times that for the 15kW unit?  Would not 300gpm water leaving the machine constitute a rather healthy "exhaust" volume?  It would fill an average swimming pool in less than two hours.

[Nink]

Perhaps I am not the smartest person in the room but the 2 large batteries and the DC to AC inverter should be a hint to anyone on how this works. 

[polln8r]

MarkE,

You're absolutely right. I just don't see anywhere they've claimed that it's in any way an efficient contraption, or overunity, or anything but that if you fill it with water, it will 'run.'  And wouldn't this be true? Even if it's just with a garden hose through a nozzle that spins that turbine for ten minutes while the really sweet gauge does its thing... wouldn't that give enough charge to a battery (that I assume is shipped with full charge to begin with) for it to run, even if only for a short time? I'm just saying that it looks like they've payed close attention to the wording so that, though it sounds like they're claiming it's capable of doing much more, they stop short of making any false claims.