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GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

Started by ramset, October 25, 2014, 09:24:26 PM

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Paul-R

Quote from: MarkE on October 29, 2014, 12:35:31 PM
Three points:

1. Patent applications do not publish immediately.
2. An application would only state how the inventor claims the device works.
3. Applications that describe non-operable machines like this one routinely get rejected for lack of utility.
1.Good point.

2. The applicant must describe what he or she wishes to claim

3. The USPTO is stuffed full of ordure. He will get past this easily, good or bad.

eletrik

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 27, 2014, 11:21:22 PM
All these running prototypes! We are still shellshocked by the QEG "running prototype" claimed by Naima Feagin, Valerie Feagin and James Robitaille over a year ago and as recently as last April. That running prototype that didn't really run itself as claimed, at all. And Alek's running prototype of his scooter. And Steorn's running prototype. And.... well, some of us have longer memories than others. We've seen dozens of people who had "running prototypes" of one kind or another that didn't actually run, even though their makers might have believed that they were only "seconds away" from running.


Case in point:  Nathren Armour's watercar claim that I busted wide open a few years back.  Told me he had a running prototype.  Watch this to see his definition of "running"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHn5gTtLGkc&list=UUFIepgJGHPNvEpsj6q8rLmw

My advice - be hopeful but temper that hope with common sense and instinct.

Cap-Z-ro

Quote from: poynt99 on October 29, 2014, 09:41:10 AM
If you are referring to the box with "25" marked on it, it appears to me that it contains the timer, AC power distribution outlets, and breaker etc.


Thank you Poynt, a serious answer...finally.

I checked the pics, and that indeed seems to be the case.

While looking, I also noticed a metal looking box in behind the black box...does anyone recognize it ?

Another unanswered question.

Even so, any of the visible components may have been modified.

We are still in the dark until a device is closely examined...and I'm not about to speculate with so many factors yet unexplored.

Regards...



MarkE

Quote from: Paul-R on October 29, 2014, 01:11:14 PM
1.Good point.

2. The applicant must describe what he or she wishes to claim
That is true.  However the specification must enable the claims by describing in such a way that a person of ordinary skill in the art may practice the claims without undue experimentation.  When the specification makes claims that the examiner recognizes as violating physical laws, then the applicant must overcome the examiner's objections with appropriate evidence.
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3. The USPTO is stuffed full of ordure. He will get past this easily, good or bad.
Many junk applications get through it is true.  Claims for a water powered engine are very unlikely to do so.

MarkE

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 29, 2014, 01:30:13 PM

Thank you Poynt, a serious answer...finally.

I checked the pics, and that indeed seems to be the case.

While looking, I also noticed a metal looking box in behind the black box...does anyone recognize it ?

Another unanswered question.

Even so, any of the visible components may have been modified.

We are still in the dark until a device is closely examined...and I'm not about to speculate with so many factors yet unexplored.

Regards...
Your doubts are off in left field.  No black box that does not have its own power source changes water into fuel.