GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

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Quote fom milehigh:'It's not ridiculous sarcasm.  If you are going to say that physics has all sorts of problems or there are ways to violate the laws of thermodynamics then the only way you are going to gain any credibility with your statements is to demonstrate competency in physics and thermodynamics'.

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No.if YOU are competent then you will have to explain to us,using textbooks, why all karpen cells,regardless of power density  last way beyond their faraday equivalency.we welcome any testable explanation.your explanation will be very important to us because it will destroy any chance of spontaneously reversable thermodynamics if true.your explanation will by default also nullify any chance that a few peswiki items might be legit

[MileHigh]

No.if YOU are competent then you will have to explain to us,using textbooks, why all karpen cells,regardless of power density  last way beyond their faraday equivalency.we welcome any testable explanation.your explanation will be very important to us because it will destroy any chance of spontaneously reversable thermodynamics if true.your explanation will by default also nullify any chance that a few peswiki items might be legit

Bait and switch is not going to work on me.  Everything I stated in my previous post still applies and you haven't addressed it at all.  Hence I conclude you can't explain why the compressed air can gets cold.

Responding to your "switch" I think Tinman addressed that issue with you recently.  Do you know what the average power consumption of the motor device in the Karpen pile is?  I doubt you do because the few times I read up on it there was no mention at all about that issue.  It's possible that the average power consumption is on the order of nano-watts, just a guess.  How much chemical energy is in the pile?  One more time, in my readings I have never seen any mention about the estimate for the amount of chemical energy in the pile, so I assume that you don't have the answer to that either.

Let's assume for the sake of argument I am right about my two conjectures in the paragraph above.  Nobody knows how much chemical energy is in the pile and nobody knows the average power consumption.  So what are you left with?  We are ignorant about the average power consumption of the device.  We are ignorant about the estimated amount of chemical energy in the pile.  So you have ignorance on top of ignorance, and yet you allege that the Karpen pile defies the laws of thermodynamics?  You make reference to "Karpen cells" but as far as I am aware there is only a single Karpen pile.

Now, if you had the data and crunched the numbers, it might say that the Karpen pile will work for 150 years.  Then when there is no more chemical energy left to run it, it will STOP.

Also, I just did the calculation.  If hypothetically the average power consumption of the "motor" in the Karpen pile is one nano-watt, then a single Joule of energy will power the "motor" for 31.7 years.

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Quote from milehigh:'Now, if you had the data and crunched the numbers, it might say that the Karpen pile will work for 150 years.  Then when there is no more chemical energy left to run it, it will stop'

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You will be forced by the scientific establishment to explain a constant stable 100microamp/cm2 from precisely 1 milligram of warm gold leaf coupled to warm platinum sponge in warm H2SO4.we are waiting.. It is now in your hands to rescue peswiki and other ou-sites from possible legitimacy

[MileHigh]

Yet another attempt to do a bait and switch?  So to me that means that you have no answer for the Karpen pile like I suspected.  So your argument for the Karpen pile fails.

I am not taking the "switch" that you are trying yet again.  I know nothing about the experiment and I am not going to look it up.  What I can say is that when metal undergoes some kind of a galvanic reaction, a lot of electrical energy and associated current is produced from the reaction.  They talk about cars being powered from batteries based on aluminum powder.  All "earth batteries" get zero power from the earth, it's the corroding magnesium that is the source of the power.  It takes TONS of electricity to produce aluminum and magnesium.  Hence they locate the production plants close to cheap plentiful sources of electrical power.  When the metal corrodes, you are getting that electrical energy back.

I challenge you to look up the gold leaf experiment and do a serious analysis of it yourself.  If you are just blindly believing what some free energy experimenter is telling you and you only are referencing this as your single and only source, then you are making a grave mistake.

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Quote from milehigh:'I challenge you to look up the gold leaf experiment and do a serious analysis of it yourself.  If you are just blindly believing what some free energy experimenter is telling you and you only are referencing this as your single and only so'

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This experiment is repeatable by anyone anywhere anytime