GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

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The claim that it can only run for four hours at a time simply makes no sense.  There is simply no rational reason to state this.  It's a big clue telling you that this is a fake.

Sorry I wrote the chemical reaction would be endothermic and it's exothermic (35 years since I failed high school chem).   There are probably a dozen ways to create hydrogen via a chemical reaction but all of them would generate a lot of heat.  Some type of chemical reaction that involves a dense solid fuel source and water is the best I could come up with.

Mr Potter does not appear to be exactly wealthy, desperate to sell a motor home, he was even selling his personal stuff on line to make ends meet. The original warehouse he rented he was subletting to park cars and he doesn't seem to have another business.  Even if he is just renting a small part of the new factory, he also has signage rights so this costs real green dollars.   This leads me to believe someone is bankrolling him.  So he has managed to convince someone he has a viable product. 

I am the first to agree this is highly suspect, and yes he maybe scamming someone / everyone to fund his venture. So either he has found a rich fool who doesn't want to see a test model or he has some way to produce more energy than a battery in a box would.  So I started to think we need some type of solid fuel source and I came up with the PEMFC idea + chemical reaction to produce hydrogen (well this is how I would approach the problem), although he is next door to the Pickering nuclear power plant so maybe he got his hands on some U-235 :-)

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The claim that it can only run for four hours at a time simply makes no sense.  There is simply no rational reason to state this.  It's a big clue telling you that this is a fake.

One way to accomplish this specification would be to use a slow recharge of "lithium acid lead replacement" (google) batteries
for the required discharge power density. They would discharge rapidly for 4 hours in an emergency and could be recharged slowly
for an unspecified period of time ready to be used again, afterwards. On the recharge side, if for some reason Steorn didn't invent
the self recharging electrostatic battery tech used in his Orbo cell phone recharger perhaps the Chinese did invent it and will sell it
to anyone with money? I seem to be seeing blue leds lit inside of studio microphones. Microphones usually use electret as a micro
level power source. Where is the power to light these blue leds coming from?

Any water would be a prop to be used in case someone gets thirsty during the emergency.

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One way to accomplish this specification would be to use a slow recharge of "lithium acid lead replacement" (google) batteries
for the required discharge power density. They would discharge rapidly for 4 hours in an emergency and could be recharged slowly
for an unspecified period of time ready to be used again, afterwards. On the recharge side, if for some reason Steorn didn't invent
the self recharging electrostatic battery tech used in his Orbo cell phone recharger perhaps the Chinese did invent it and will sell it
to anyone with money? I seem to be seeing blue leds lit inside of studio microphones. Microphones usually use electret as a micro
level power source. Where is the power to light these blue leds coming from?

Any water would be a prop to be used in case someone gets thirsty during the emergency.

I think we are talking about 5000 Watts for 4 hours with a 16 hour recharge time not trickle charging a 2mW  LED from ambient RF sources

[MileHigh]

I think we are talking about 5000 Watts for 4 hours with a 16 hour recharge time not trickle charging a 2mW  LED from ambient RF sources

Look earlier very recently in the thread, the GDS guy specifically stated that the alleged device does not need recharging.  Alleged being the key word.  There is a good chance you will never see one of these devices shown in a credible demo situation.  Think Inteligentry.

There isn't a single shred of proof that Steorn has a "self recharging electrostatic battery tech."

[PIH123]

I am looking from the perspective of  OK I want to scam someone but still stay in the rules of the law.  The 15 day money back guarantee is interesting.

The money back Guarantee is the key to the whole charade.
Rosch/Gaia have the same wording in their deal with SwissRe.
Stuart thinks the guarantee is more proof that the water buckets thing is real.


A returned unit has to be "in working" condition in order to qualify for the refund.

So let's say you receive your product, and lo and behold, it doesn't produce any free energy.
So you want a refund under your guarantee.
But wait, didn't you say your unit was not working.
Well, sorry customer, but our guarantee did clearly state that the unit must be returned in "working" condition.
And yours isn't working.
We cannot be held responsible for you not reading the terms.

But thanks for your business anyhoo,

Greg