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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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Marsing

Quote from: lumen on November 10, 2014, 06:46:29 PM
If you watch the video very carefully, it looks like the generator power is simply operating a relay to supply grid power.
Especially the turn off delay. The generator seems to be fully stopped and it output is still running.
Probably converting the output to dc and filtering with a cap which increases the relay dropout delay.

I hope I'm wrong but it looks a bit odd! (video 1)


i don't really understand your intent,

if you have ever playede with machinery it will always behave like that,
grinder or drill machine will rotate for a short period after you stop supplying power from the grid, if you turn your car off immediately after reaching certain speed, your car will still run a while.
what do you think of inertia ? 

why don't you try make a replication ,  for simple approach,  FAN FROM CPU CAN BE MODIFIED.
..

Freezer

Quote from: Marsing on November 10, 2014, 07:24:28 PM
why don't you try make a replication ,  for simple approach,  FAN FROM CPU CAN BE MODIFIED.

Is there a schematic or drawing?

lumen

Quote from: Marsing on November 10, 2014, 07:24:28 PM

i don't really understand your intent,

if you have ever playede with machinery it will always behave like that,
grinder or drill machine will rotate for a short period after you stop supplying power from the grid, if you turn your car off immediately after reaching certain speed, your car will still run a while.
what do you think of inertia ? 

why don't you try make a replication ,  for simple approach,  FAN FROM CPU CAN BE MODIFIED.
..

I agree, but when you stop the power to something it starts to slow instantly and you can hear it and see it.
If you watch the video you will see full power for a long time even when the generator is fully stopped, then you can hear it suddenly start to slow moments later when the power actually stops.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong and it's just some video lag.
But it does look suspicious.

Magluvin

What I think is the 4 coils on the outer case are stationary, the magnets are stationary but between the coils and mags are the spinning iron sections. Like an iron tube with rectangular portions cut out of the sides(not sure of that config, 4 openings, 8, 16?) and as the tube rotates the tube opens and closes the mag field from inducing the coil. So only the tube spins and the drag cant increase with more current flow due to the coils field in opposition to the mag field. So is there a reduction in cogging as the output is loaded heavier?

What clues me in about the pics/drawings, for the coils to be stationary, then the mags also stationary(mounted to end plates?) then the axle/shaft has the tube mounted from the middle of the shaft in the middle of the motor/gen casing, being it looks like there are 2 sets of mags and stators, one set on either end held by the casing and end plates. Otherwise how could the mags be stationary while inside the tube connected to shaft?  Could be done another way but difficulty would be increased. This way the tube is mounted to the shaft at the tubes center rather than the end of the tube and the other end of the motor casing holds the other stuff. Tube would have to be very secure and balanced/centered with only one end held by the shaft.




Mags

Magluvin

Quote from: lumen on November 10, 2014, 07:53:23 PM

I agree, but when you stop the power to something it starts to slow instantly and you can hear it and see it.
If you watch the video you will see full power for a long time even when the generator is fully stopped, then you can hear it suddenly start to slow moments later when the power actually stops.

Like I said, I hope I'm wrong and it's just some video lag.
But it does look suspicious.

The vid could have a lag in sound vs video. I agree to always have suspicions, but until they have strong merit, we will just have to see how it pans out. ;D

Mags