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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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lumen

Luc,
This idea I'm going with is to keep the field looped inside of the coil and use the "C" section to pull the magnetic loop out through the coil.
The area you want to cut down is probably long enough where the field loop will still retain well in the iron and would likely not greatly impact the design idea.
I appears you already have your own plan in this "defeat Lenz project" and should go with what you want in your design.
Small changes like this could make it work better and to be sure you might model it in a field simulator but sometimes just building is more interesting.

Keep up the good work!

T-1000

Quote from: MileHigh on December 23, 2014, 08:39:55 PM
Water is an excellent analogy for electricity in terms of power and energy.  When you do the Google search "electricity water analogy" you get about 468,000 results.

What makes magnet to have usable magnetic field for a life? Water is not comparable there...
Also when you start looking to magnet as power source in same way as Sun provides energy for solar panels, there are ways to convert magnetic field into electricity without external power source.

For doing that the same general principle applies like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx2PgESXhs

MileHigh

Quote from: T-1000 on December 24, 2014, 10:29:51 AM
What makes magnet to have usable magnetic field for a life? Water is not comparable there...
Also when you start looking to magnet as power source in same way as Sun provides energy for solar panels, there are ways to convert magnetic field into electricity without external power source.

For doing that the same general principle applies like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx2PgESXhs

When you are discussing power and energy, you don't have to have a magnetic field present.  The water just needs to model the energy effects of the magnetic field.  Example:  Move a magnet past a coil to generate AC power.  For the water version, you make a water pump that is "AC" - it moves the water back and forth with an AC pressure.

The fact that solar panels turn sunlight into electricity can easily be modeled with water.  A water pump in a water circuit represents the solar panels.

A magnet is never a power source for anything.  The power source is what moves the magnet past the coil.

MileHigh

P.S.:  For doing that the same general principle applies like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx2PgESXhs

That clip is a nonsense clip.  The guy does not have a perpetual motion machine.  I read a few times that reporters requested that they be permitted to see the entire machine and he always refuses.  He refuses because he knows that the reporters would find the power source for his machine.  The power source could be something as simple as a small electric motor.

T-1000

Quote from: MileHigh on December 24, 2014, 10:41:11 AM
A magnet is never a power source for anything.  The power source is what moves the magnet past the coil.
The magnet and coil can be stationary for inducing current. As long the magnetic field gets weakened or strengthened in coil the Faraday law is followed. This can be done by changing magnetic flux resistance in core between magnet and coil or redirecting magnetic flux path to another magnet instead of coil. With proper design it is easy.
Then same magnet can energize coil then the induced electric current creates electromagnetic field which should be coupled between magnet and coil only and won't interfere with force changing magnetic flux path/resistance when proper geometry is applied in design.

Not sure if you get that but it is easy as soon experiments are done with designs mentioned in beginning of this thread and in http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2678.msg43489#msg43489

MileHigh

QuoteWhat makes magnet to have usable magnetic field for a life? Water is not comparable there...

This has nothing to do with power and energy.  I said that water is an excellent analogy for electricity when you are discussing the power and energy issues.

Why does a magnet have a magnetic field that lasts for life?  You should know the answer to this question already.  I am not sure what your native language is but I am sure that you will find all of the information in your native language on the Internet.

As a general statement, if you are on this website and you are an experimenter that is doing research into free energy using magnets and electronic circuits, then you should already understand how and why a magnet can produce a magnetic field for thousands or millions of years.  The reason for this has nothing to do with free energy and it is nothing special.

If you do not understand how a magnet works and why a magnet can produce a magnetic field then my strong advice is to spend one full day doing the research for yourself.  Then come back to the forum with a full understanding of how a magnet works.