The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

[prochiro]

LUC

I do understand what your setup is trying to test but it does not truly represent the generator in question and by the time you get it spinning, much effort, money,and time will pass. I am not saying stop but can offer a simpler and more direct method.  Also the the terms you guys are using (delayed lentz, etc. ) may be better stated as deflected lentz. You cant get rid of lentz and would not want to but deflection is really what is going on here. When I take a stick and stand in the river, facing upstream,  when I first slap the water it causes a small back pressure. If I held it there, (Static thinking and testing), the back pressure will continue and slow the river a bit. If I just slap the water quick, there will be an instant of back pressure and a couple of other things one could only see by lifting the stick fast. First there is a void of water where the slap was, a momentary time where there is nether forward or backward water in that spot. This is good. The next thing one will notice is the wave. The actual water (or force) I deflected moves out sideways at an angle proportional to the river speed and is continued in that direction, out of my way. That is also good. Now, I will not stand here and debate this principle as all analogies do break down if one wants to waste time and act immature.  All this example is for is to explain what is going on in the generator.

Now for two testing ideas.
1. I am sure that many here,as I have, built a motor  with several discs of plexiglass. Make one with three discs, the two outside ones are stationary. One with coils (even one) and the other with a strong magnet. Now the center disc is for iron and it rotates. Wait a minute, does this sound like the generator as only iron is moving? You will see cogging strong at first spin but as in the film, you will turn it easily with your finger once it gets going as lentz effect is deflected. If you like what you see and feel or not feel then go with it.

2. Simply place several iron pieces on a three foot strip of plexiglass and mount it in a pair of 2x4s with a slot cut out on the edge for the plexiglass to slide into. This will look like something one would use to cut his head off. Mount a coil on the back side and a magnet on the front side. Lift up the slide and drop it so it runs past the coil. This happens fast so get your scope set up and record.

These will not give you hundreds of volts but will show in a lineal way the principal. The first one is best as it will indicate lentz information and the second one will just show a blip of power. You all saw on the film, cogging on the loaded generator that was at first strong. You may not have noticed that  the guy was turning the loaded generator with the tip of his finger after that. Test with other than Iron will not be the same. These two examples are simple to conduct and directly relates to this design, getting you past this first stage and on to better building. There are a few other obstacles to overcome and a redesign with motor and generator in one case.

Again, if you guys are going to do this,  stop setting things aside to talk to bullsitters as I will not ether.
Prochiro

[Jimboot]

MC Luc,
Nice setup. I've stumbled upon another effect, still trying to understand it. It may have nothing to do with the Wesley Gary motor in my setup. I'll make a video of it but it is almost ot for the effect we are investigating. Basically a 10% drop in input current when I draw power. I haven't checked RPMs yet so I may be losing there. Anyway lots of measurements to make. Thanks for the pix. How do you intend to fix the axle?

[Jimboot]

LUC



Now for two testing ideas.
1. I am sure that many here,as I have, built a motor  with several discs of plexiglass. Make one with three discs, the two outside ones are stationary. One with coils (even one) and the other with a strong magnet. Now the center disc is for iron and it rotates. Wait a minute, does this sound like the generator as only iron is moving? You will see cogging strong at first spin but as in the film, you will turn it easily with your finger once it gets going as lentz effect is deflected. If you like what you see and feel or not feel then go with it.

2. Simply place several iron pieces on a three foot strip of plexiglass and mount it in a pair of 2x4s with a slot cut out on the edge for the plexiglass to slide into. This will look like something one would use to cut his head off. Mount a coil on the back side and a magnet on the front side. Lift up the slide and drop it so it runs past the coil. This happens fast so get your scope set up and record.

These will not give you hundreds of volts but will show in a lineal way the principal. The first one is best as it will indicate lentz information and the second one will just show a blip of power. You all saw on the film, cogging on the loaded generator that was at first strong. You may not have noticed that  the guy was turning the loaded generator with the tip of his finger after that. Test with other than Iron will not be the same. These two examples are simple to conduct and directly relates to this design, getting you past this first stage and on to better building. There are a few other obstacles to overcome and a redesign with motor and generator in one case.

Again, if you guys are going to do this,  stop setting things aside to talk to bullsitters as I will not ether.
Prochiro

Thanks Good advice and great experiment setup. Are you building?

[MileHigh]

MileHigh:

Not sure what direction you were trying to explain here.
The magnet is "N" facing into one coil core and "S" facing into the other coil core.

I would believe the flux flow would be better if the laminations were into the magnet poles also if that's what you were trying to say, but with the "C" core rotating across the top of the coil cores and not the ends, it is likely the better choice since the field at the magnet is mostly stationary when compared to the rotating "C" section.

The flux should connect better from the coil cores to the "C" section the way it is now.

I will mark up one pic here and show you what I thought the config was supposed to be.  If the magnet polarization is incorrect you or Luc can please clarify.  I think we agree on the flux coupling business.

MileHigh

[gotoluc]

@prochiro, thanks for the advice.  However, I will complete the above build as it should only be another days work. Also, the cost of material was $25. for the MOT the magnet and wire I had.

@Jimboot, thanks for your positive comment.  Always looking forward to your videos.
The prime mover will be a drill press turning the C core over the surface of the I core (as seen in pic) which will be secured to a thick piece of lumber so not to loose flux to the drill press platter.

Should have a video demo by the 27th

Luc