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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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lumen

Quote from: Magluvin on November 10, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
What I think is the 4 coils on the outer case are stationary, the magnets are stationary but between the coils and mags are the spinning iron sections. Like an iron tube with rectangular portions cut out of the sides(not sure of that config, 4 openings, 8, 16?) and as the tube rotates the tube opens and closes the mag field from inducing the coil. So only the tube spins and the drag cant increase with more current flow due to the coils field in opposition to the mag field. So is there a reduction in cogging as the output is loaded heavier?

What clues me in about the pics/drawings, for the coils to be stationary, then the mags also stationary(mounted to end plates?) then the axle/shaft has the tube mounted from the middle of the shaft in the middle of the motor/gen casing, being it looks like there are 2 sets of mags and stators, one set on either end held by the casing and end plates. Otherwise how could the mags be stationary while inside the tube connected to shaft?  Could be done another way but difficulty would be increased. This way the tube is mounted to the shaft at the tubes center rather than the end of the tube and the other end of the motor casing holds the other stuff. Tube would have to be very secure and balanced/centered with only one end held by the shaft.




Mags

Yes, that is exactly what he was showing.
Only the iron rotates between the inner magnets and outer coils.
But another problem is that he says it works like he has shown but built it with 40 poles and 168 magnets?
What does that mean, are there now 40 iron bars along with 40 coils?, and how did he arrange the 168 magnets?

To make a good replication he will need to clarify the missing details.

Magluvin

Quote from: lumen on November 10, 2014, 08:12:38 PM

Yes, that is exactly what he was showing.
Only the iron rotates between the inner magnets and outer coils.
But another problem is that he says it works like he has shown but built it with 40 poles and 168 magnets?
What does that mean, are there now 40 iron bars along with 40 coils?, and how did he arrange the 168 magnets?

To make a good replication he will need to clarify the missing details.

Yeah, could be many individual coils and sets of mags. Maybe the thing is higher freq than 60hz also. Or many phase changes per rotation.   Im trying to come up with a simple test bed for the concept. Things dont have to be large to work.  ;) Just to test the no increase in drag between loaded and unloaded.

If we want to be skeptical, the amount of apparent output per apparent input seems monsterous, but that may be what this idea is all about, easy spin and lots out.

Mags


ARMCORTEX

He is not gonna rewind the stator.

He is most likely trying to increase number of rotating ferrite''magnet'' with gap, and posibly more smaller stationnary magnet.

A very densly stacked ''high frequency'' ?

By iterating, with 3 components, we will arrive to a logical solution as to what he meant for more power.

1. Soft iron plate 0.5mm, iron tube only holder to easy when i cutting, and must be open when assmbly wth holder alumnium, holder must isoltor mterial, and holder must be connected by shaft output, so shaft any 2 ( 1 shaft for rotor spin and 2 shaft for magnet or elctromagnet ), and any bearing .

Am I understanding that the holder's 4 massive links are not magnetic blocks but just the connections to the iron ( wich is made of soft iron ) Or is that some sort of magnet.


ketone