The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

[gotoluc]

Well Luc I could sense the setup in your question but I gave you an answer filled with lots of information anyway.  Have you ever considered some of the issues that I mentioned?  I didn't answer your question because I could not magically be sure of the results unseen based on some sketchy information.  Nor is your setup the same as what I have been discussing the whole time.  I have always discussed a single coil driving a load resistor.

I can't tell you why you see what you see based on a few sentences from you.  On the other hand, over the years, how many times have you been "so sure of yourself" that you had convinced yourself that you had found a new discovery?  I think it's a least four or five times.  The last time you wanted to "rewrite the physics books."  It didn't happen.

You go ahead and explain why you see what you see.  I would be very interested to know why myself.

MileHigh

I see you can't answer because you don't know, never done the experiment and does not fit your education.

Instead of saying you don't know, you try to make me look incompetent. Very sophisticated approach!
I chalenge you to show a post where I wrote we need to "rewrite the physics books" based on any of my experiment results.

Anyone who knows my style would know those are lies.
Since I make no claims, freely share what ever I find interesting in hopes to help other researcher.
You won't find any advertising on my videos. I have over 850,000 views, so I'm not doing this for monetary gain.
I volunteer 60 hours a week (do not get paid) just to do research, since the world is in such a bad place because of most know it all have concluded they know it all and there is nothing new to discover. I fact, they do their best to spread their kool-aid that it is so.
How ridiculous is that?... when gravity, magnetism and electricity are not fully understood by your fully knowledgeable science.

Enjoy finding the post to cover yourself

Kind regards

Luc

[Cap-Z-ro]

Noooooooo Luc...don't do it !

Your foot is too close to the tar baby.

The best thing to do is to direct your comments to the readership like I do...that really upsets and discourages them.

But I wood like to analyze the situation...

" Instead of saying you don't know, you try to make me look incompetent. Very sophisticated approach! "


Deflection transmitted on a projection carrier wave.



" I chalenge you to show a post where I wrote we need to "rewrite the physics books" based on any of my experiment results."


When you make stuff up, naturally you have to make up supportive scenarios...no matter how ridiculous.

Then you leave the thread and show up somewhere else with a fresh set of downs...just like in football.



" Anyone who knows my style would know those are lies. "


Recalling how indignant he was in claiming I had inferred that he was a liar, a few posts back...now he's really being accused of lying ?

This wood represent a 'cliff hanger' if this happened back in the old TV daze.

Regards...

[albator10]

The real reason I dropped into this thread was to discuss the myths surrounding the "delayed Lenz effect" and clearly explain that it is all about understanding the power dissipation in the generator coil + load resistor.  I think I covered that issue in good depth and if anybody has any questions about that I would be pleased to respond.

I am not here to discuss builds and all that stuff, or any strategies for trying to "bypass Lenz" because that can't be done.  You don't have to believe my statements if you don't want to.  Anybody that wants to challenge what conventional electronics states about pulse motors and generators is welcome to do so with the caveat that the burden of proof rests on their shoulders.

MileHigh

There are strategies to "bypass Lenz"

This is one.

I dont say this is overunity but it will bypass the bad effect of the Lenz

[lumen]

So I have this theory to omit the Lenz drag from an iron rotor.
I also believe it's possibly the same theory Ecklin had.

Instead of trying to push a field into a coil and have Lenz fight the process, suppose we arrange the magnets in some efficient way on the other side of the coil.
Then the inner iron core simply creates a path for the flux.
Because the flux comes from the back of the coil the Lenz opposition will resist the field and in the worst case cause less drag on the rotor.

Lenz will simply delay the field depending on the coil load. More load the more it shades the rotor.
The power you can get out will depend on how well you can design it to achieve the most flux from the magnets through the coils.
In any case, the more current the less rotor drag.

Can you see it?

[MarkE]

So I have this theory to omit the Lenz drag from an iron rotor.
I also believe it's possibly the same theory Ecklin had.

Instead of trying to push a field into a coil and have Lenz fight the process, suppose we arrange the magnets in some efficient way on the other side of the coil.
Then the inner iron core simply creates a path for the flux.
Because the flux comes from the back of the coil the Lenz opposition will resist the field and in the worst case cause less drag on the rotor.

Lenz will simply delay the field depending on the coil load. More load the more it shades the rotor.
The power you can get out will depend on how well you can design it to achieve the most flux from the magnets through the coils.
In any case, the more current the less rotor drag.

Can you see it?

Induction is the action, Lenz's Law only specifies the orientation.  If you go after eliminating induction, you eliminate either desired voltage generation in machine operating as a generator, or desired torque in a machine operating as a motor. 

It is sort of like trying to eliminate the force required to push something up an inclined plane:  You can reduce that force by lowering the incline angle of the plane.  But then you immediately and proportionately reduce the potential energy that you put into any mass you move up the plane.  The force that you would rather not have to work against is part and parcel to the energy that you would like to end up in the mass.  The same behavior occurs with induction:  Build a machine with a low BEMF constant and it will have a low torque/force constant.