The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

[MileHigh]

I watched the full chunk of that clip and at the end I am not sure what is being shown but it does not look like flux flows to me.  For the stuff being stated in the clip itself, I get uncomfortable when I listen to what is being said.  I can't exactly follow what he is saying and I am not going to watch it 10 times to try to figure it out.  Nor am I going to watch the original series of clips.  I note that the YouTube clip is a few years old.

The issue is this:  I think it's fair to say that whatever he was saying, the idea was based on some kind of "workaround."  You know, "My generator with the rotor cylinder sliced at a certain angle prevents back-EMF, bla, bla, whatever.  It often sounds very noble and is serious sounding, but in the back of my mind the "engineer" in me is saying, "No matter what, flux has to cut a coil, or a coil has to cut some flux, and it takes mechanical energy to do that if you are going to drive a load."  It's just the way it is, it's always there, and everything we know right now says that's the way the world works.

It's like you can take any fancy generator design and rip it apart and distil it down to it's bare essence, and there is still a magnet moving past a coil.

MileHigh

[T-1000]

I believe there is a flux flow at the end of this video I shared yesterday.

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/4385356

Are there any real builds on it?

Also the magnets<-->coils flux interaction always go over shortest straight paths and when doing design for the magnetic flux switching that has to be accounted...
And if there is bended flux path between coil and magnet that complicates design when avoiding to hit induced magnetic force 3D vector(the Lenz force which will cause drag when aligned) on same line by external force causing magnetic flux change.

[lumen]

Lumen, I hope you have something with your design, however, I can offer from my own experiments many years ago where I placed coils on the permanent magnets themselves, and spun iron segments past them, the back emf was still there and showed up on the input to the rotor. I also experimented with permanent magnets wound with output coils on both the rotor and on the stator. I was very confident at the time that the back emf in the stator coils would be cancelled by the back emf in the rotor coils,  but it was not. Very efficient induction but no cigar. It was a novel induction method without any core hysteresis. Magnets will switch polarities without heating up when employing them for both the rotor and the stator. They can also be employed to efficiently achieve induction at very high frequencies. Just picture permanent magnets wound with induction coils as the stator, and permanent magnets wound with induction coils, employed as the rotor segments. No iron at all in the generator.

I do believe what they have been doing in Indonesia does work... I have my doubts if there is a better way than what Syair has shown

EDIT... As an after thought, perhaps stationary magnets with induction coils in the outer stator as well as magnets wound with induction coils on the inner core, with iron segments passing in between.....something to chew on for awhile....

I agree that it's possible this design may not be fully free of rotor drag from Lenz, but the idea is in the description and the device only hopes to achieve it.
Simply placing a magnet inside a coil is not the same as the shorted magnet in this design.
The idea is to contain the field inside the core and have it pulled out by the rotor where Lenz will try to hold it within the core reducing rotor drag.

With only a magnet inside a coil, the field is already outside the coil and the rotor drags the field back through the coil against Lenz so contains rotor drag.
Any time you try to force the field through a loaded coil, you will have Lenz pushing back. You need a design where only the magnets themselves are pushing the field through the coil and fighting Lenz.

[lumen]

I watched the full chunk of that clip and at the end I am not sure what is being shown but it does not look like flux flows to me.  For the stuff being stated in the clip itself, I get uncomfortable when I listen to what is being said.  I can't exactly follow what he is saying and I am not going to watch it 10 times to try to figure it out.  Nor am I going to watch the original series of clips.  I note that the YouTube clip is a few years old.

The issue is this:  I think it's fair to say that whatever he was saying, the idea was based on some kind of "workaround."  You know, "My generator with the rotor cylinder sliced at a certain angle prevents back-EMF, bla, bla, whatever.  It often sounds very noble and is serious sounding, but in the back of my mind the "engineer" in me is saying, "No matter what, flux has to cut a coil, or a coil has to cut some flux, and it takes mechanical energy to do that if you are going to drive a load."  It's just the way it is, it's always there, and everything we know right now says that's the way the world works.

It's like you can take any fancy generator design and rip it apart and distil it down to it's bare essence, and there is still a magnet moving past a coil.

MileHigh

MileHigh,
Yes all that double talk is just too much to be anything but impressive sounding.

[ekimtoor1]

Speaking of fancy generator designs:  http://magnomatics.com/HomePageVideo.aspx

This device seems similar in some ways to the ones being discussed, rotating iron and all...

Is it?