Johann E. E. Bessler and his clues

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Norman

Even though the old design I posted does not work as is. One may see way it may be able to work. Thus there is something to learn from it. The main reason for posting, is to show different dynamics of how scissor jacks can be used.  I use scissor jacks in some of what I design and others I use slides, swings and shifts.  I will be showing some of them soon. As for Bessler I am also a believer in his success and pay attention to what he wrote.  There is a lot to consider as well. Will we ever build Bessler's wheel or are we finding ways to make a runner from our belief in Bessler's work. There will be no way to say that it would be Bessler's wheel but we will be able to say a Bessler like wheel for we do not have the exact design to go by or we would of had it hundreds of years ago. But we can think that this might be what Bessler saw or did.


Alan

[MT]

well from what i know about bessler your on the money with that one Norman as a matter of fact it never cuts through the Axel at any point the mechanism's and weights  form a elliptical path around the axle as they move around it, and from what i can see the rim weights begin to lift at about
5 o'clock stay in that position held by the peg till reaches between 1 and 2 o'clock then the peg drops off, but here is the trick it could not happen if the springs did not play there part friction and centripetal force would not allow the peg to disengage, the rear counter weights throw it forward to the rim of the wheel with a thud which i expect is the imputes it picks up to continue rotating and gravity takes over.

Actually as i write this it just occurs to me i know where the extra force comes now, gravity creates an event going down the mechanism converts it to a equal and o posit  right angle force to the wheel adding to the rotation don't know if i explained it well but my head can visualize it.
But i still think that with out the pendulum to govern the speed Bessler's wheel would lock up and not keep going time plays an important roll when you are converting gravity.

Domenic

Thanks for the links. I have read it some time ago but it helps to refresh. As for the peacok our solar system looks also as peacok from front or side view. He kept repeating parallels between interstellar (have you seen the movie?) pertpetual motion and his machine. Only that planets stay on their orbit because of their speed and sun gravity. And there is no universal gravity keep it all going. I still wonder how weights moving on eliptical paths around axis can produce something usefull. We may never know, but who knows, maybe ... As for Bessler I hope God showed great mercifulness at his judgment day for such a great git wasted, if true of course.


Marcel

[dom444]

thanks guys all i can say is i found something that gives me more of a clue what was under that canvas than most ,  you might believe this or you might not that's up to you, frow me on the pile with the other 1000's that thought they had the answer, but  every passage i read referring to him only confirm what i know, I haven't found anything that doesn't fit.
that doesn't mean i have all the answers or that it will even work, he was a very cryptic man with something to hide, as we all know if it pans out i will eventually share it all but it is like a story unfolding and some things i have to return to time and again to finally understand  it.

But i will stick by what i said that they are not all giving accurate information on Bessler some is there to mislead you, eg:     
Apologia Poetica these these lines are Hardley ever shown

Poltergeists wander freely through locked doors.

But softly! - speak softly of all these marvels,                                   
lest the enemy grows wise!  He will drench me with his spittle                     
so that I will lose my temper and in a sudden fit,                                 
cast aside the mantle that conceals my wheel.                                       
But he shall be thwarted in his desires.



there are omissions changed facts all sorts of things and so many people steering people in the wrong directions to waist there times.
My aim is to replicate his work not to reinvent it or make it out to be my own work, so i am searching with a fine tooth comb through everything and anything i can find on him and it is not easy with so much incomplete and inaccurate information around.

[dom444]

 I have just found this on    http://orffyre.tripod.com/id41.html   seems i am not the only one that thinks this way.       









In Orffyreus' times, his enemies as well as many others, regarded the whole story as a gigantic fraud. But, in present time also, there is no end to disbelievers and their strange doubts.  Vague and false evaluations of Orffyreus' remarkable work still go on without shame. There are plots and attempts to discredit the inventor.

We have large number of books, websites, and articles that either undermine great discovery of Orffyreus or carry miserable misinterpretations of his invention. Web is also littered with many articles about the same.   For paucity of space and time, it would not possible to go into details and quote every work that is in grave error. To show how Orffyreus devotees have indulged in grotesque interpretation of his wheel and everything he did in his lifetime, here, I will only select and comment on the works of few the authors namely, Ord-Hume, J. Collins, Alden E. Park. Alfred Evert, and Jain Rutowsky. 

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dom444

Yes there are a lot of people who think Bessler was a fraud. But!! when one of us display a gravity only powered wheel it will help clear Bessler's name as well.


Alan